linux-kernel - Re: [patch 3/3] tick: Annotate tick_do_timer

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Date:   Mon, 7 Dec 2020 19:19:51 +0100
From:   Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>
To:     Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Cc:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        kasan-dev <kasan-dev@...glegroups.com>,
        "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@...nel.org>,
        Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
        Naresh Kamboju <naresh.kamboju@...aro.org>,
        syzbot+23a256029191772c2f02@...kaller.appspotmail.com,
        syzbot+56078ac0b9071335a745@...kaller.appspotmail.com,
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Subject: Re: [patch 3/3] tick: Annotate tick_do_timer_cpu data races

On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 18:46, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 07 2020 at 13:09, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 06, 2020 at 10:12:56PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> >> +            if (data_race(tick_do_timer_cpu) == TICK_DO_TIMER_BOOT) {
> >
> > I prefer the form:
> >
> >       if (data_race(tick_do_timer_cpu == TICK_DO_TIMER_BOOT)) {
> >
> > But there doesn't yet seem to be sufficient data_race() usage in the
> > kernel to see which of the forms is preferred. Do we want to bike-shed
> > this now and document the outcome somewhere?
>
> Yes please before we get a gazillion of patches changing half of them
> half a year from now.

That rule should be as simple as possible. The simplest would be:
"Only enclose the smallest required expression in data_race(); keep
the number of required data_race() expressions to a minimum." (=> want
least amount of code inside data_race() with the least number of
data_race()s).

In the case here, that'd be the "if (data_race(tick_do_timer_cpu) ==
..." variant.

Otherwise there's the possibility that we'll end up with accesses
inside data_race() that we hadn't planned for. For example, somebody
refactors some code replacing constants with variables.

I currently don't know what the rule for Peter's preferred variant
would be, without running the risk of some accidentally data_race()'d
accesses.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
-- Marco