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Date:   Tue, 22 Dec 2020 10:49:53 +0800
From:   Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@...onical.com>
To:     Ilia Mirkin <imirkin@...m.mit.edu>
Cc:     Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.de>,
        "moderated list:SOUND" <alsa-devel@...a-project.org>,
        Kai Vehmanen <kai.vehmanen@...ux.intel.com>,
        nouveau <nouveau@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
        open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@...ux.intel.com>,
        tiwai@...e.com, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
        Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
        Linux PCI <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>,
        Alex Deucher <alexander.deucher@....com>,
        Jaroslav Kysela <perex@...ex.cz>,
        Mike Rapoport <rppt@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [Nouveau] [PATCH v2] ALSA: hda: Continue to probe when codec
 probe fails

On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 1:56 AM Ilia Mirkin <imirkin@...m.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 11:33 AM Kai-Heng Feng
> <kai.heng.feng@...onical.com> wrote:
> >
> > [+Cc nouveau]
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:06 PM Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.de> wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > > Quite possibly the system doesn't power up HDA controller when there's
> > > > no external monitor.
> > > > So when it's connected to external monitor, it's still needed for HDMI audio.
> > > > Let me ask the user to confirm this.
> > >
> > > Yeah, it's the basic question whether the HD-audio is supposed to work
> > > on this machine at all.  If yes, the current approach we take makes
> > > less sense - instead we should rather make the HD-audio controller
> > > working.
> >
> > Yea, confirmed that the Nvidia HDA works when HDMI is connected prior boot.
> >
> > > > > - The second problem is that pci_enable_device() ignores the error
> > > > >   returned from pci_set_power_state() if it's -EIO.  And the
> > > > >   inaccessible access error returns -EIO, although it's rather a fatal
> > > > >   problem.  So the driver believes as the PCI device gets enabled
> > > > >   properly.
> > > >
> > > > This was introduced in 2005, by Alan's 11f3859b1e85 ("[PATCH] PCI: Fix
> > > > regression in pci_enable_device_bars") to fix UHCI controller.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - The third problem is that HD-audio driver blindly believes the
> > > > >   codec_mask read from the register even if it's a read failure as I
> > > > >   already showed.
> > > >
> > > > This approach has least regression risk.
> > >
> > > Yes, but it assumes that HD-audio is really non-existent.
> >
> > I really don't know any good approach to address this.
> > On Windows, HDA PCI is "hidden" until HDMI cable is plugged, then the
> > driver will flag the magic bit to make HDA audio appear on the PCI
> > bus.
> > IIRC the current approach is to make nouveau and device link work.
>
> I don't have the full context of this discussion, but the kernel
> force-enables the HDA subfunction nowadays, irrespective of nouveau or
> nvidia or whatever:

That's the problem.

The nvidia HDA controller on the affected system only gets its power
after HDMI cable plugged, so the probe on boot fails.

Kai-Heng

>
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/pci/quirks.c?h=v5.10#n5267
>
> Cheers,
>
>   -ilia

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