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Message-ID: <0b797d40843b2cd54a5840ee97a9f77fb60e4658.camel@petrovitsch.priv.at>
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2021 12:57:32 +0100
From: Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@...rovitsch.priv.at>
To: sedat.dilek@...il.com
Cc: Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@...nel.org>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
Linux Kbuild mailing list <linux-kbuild@...r.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 5.11-rc1
On Sat, 2021-01-02 at 12:26 +0100, Sedat Dilek wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 12:05 PM Bernd Petrovitsch
> <bernd@...rovitsch.priv.at> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2021-01-02 at 10:13 +0100, Sedat Dilek wrote:
> > [...]
> > > To be honest I wondered why there were no more reports on this.
> >
> > Perhaps I'm not the only one who has /sbin and /usr/sbin in the
> > $PATH of normal accounts too (and idk what's the default
> > behaviour of distributions is - my .bashrc "fixes" the
> > $PATH).
>
> I was thinking more towards maxim/dictum:
> "Never break userspace!" or "It worked before but now it is not."
But if userspace changed (and that could be a change by the
distribution which the user isn't aware) than ...
> Think of automated kernel build and test setups based on Debian.
>
> Debian/testing AMD64 has...
OK.
> [ /etc/login.defs ]
>
> # *REQUIRED* The default PATH settings, for superuser and normal users.
> #
> # (they are minimal, add the rest in the shell startup files)
> ENV_SUPATH
> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
> ENV_PATH PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
Well, "minimal" and /usr/local/games:/usr/games ...
/usr/local/* is the next ...
Yes, it's hard for the distribution to "guess" the local admins
habits and policies ....
> IMHO users should not need to fix their environment.
> ( The discussion is a bit obsolete as we now have a fix. )
FWIW, I have no (and don't see any) problems simply appending
/sbin:/usr/sbin to the $PATH in/for the kernel's scripts.
MfG,
Bernd
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