linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] Revert "KVM: x86: Unconditionally enable irqs in guest context"

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Message-ID: <87ble1gkgx.fsf@vitty.brq.redhat.com>
Date:   Thu, 07 Jan 2021 10:33:18 +0100
From:   Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@...hat.com>
To:     Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>
Cc:     Nitesh Narayan Lal <nitesh@...hat.com>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
        w90p710@...il.com, pbonzini@...hat.com,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "KVM: x86: Unconditionally enable irqs in guest
 context"

Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com> writes:

> On Wed, Jan 06, 2021, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
>> 
>> Looking back, I don't quite understand why we wanted to account ticks
>> between vmexit and exiting guest context as 'guest' in the first place;
>> to my understanging 'guest time' is time spent within VMX non-root
>> operation, the rest is KVM overhead (system).
>
> With tick-based accounting, if the tick IRQ is received after PF_VCPU is cleared
> then that tick will be accounted to the host/system.  The motivation for opening
> an IRQ window after VM-Exit is to handle the case where the guest is constantly
> exiting for a different reason _just_ before the tick arrives, e.g. if the guest
> has its tick configured such that the guest and host ticks get synchronized
> in a bad way.
>
> This is a non-issue when using CONFIG_VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING_GEN=y, at least with a
> stable TSC, as the accounting happens during guest_exit_irqoff() itself.
> Accounting might be less-than-stellar if TSC is unstable, but I don't think it
> would be as binary of a failure as tick-based accounting.
>

Oh, yea, I vaguely remember we had to deal with a very similar problem
but for userspace/kernel accounting. It was possible to observe e.g. a
userspace task going 100% kernel while in reality it was just perfectly
synchronized with the tick and doing a syscall just before it arrives
(or something like that, I may be misremembering the details).

So depending on the frequency, it is probably possible to e.g observe
'100% host' with tick based accounting, the guest just has to
synchronize exiting to KVM in a way that the tick will always arrive
past guest_exit_irqoff().

It seems to me this is a fundamental problem in case the frequency of
guest exits can match the frequency of the time accounting tick.

-- 
Vitaly