lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:   Tue, 12 Jan 2021 20:57:03 +0100
From:   Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@...gle.com>
To:     Alexander Potapenko <glider@...gle.com>
Cc:     Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
        Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@....com>,
        Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>,
        Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
        Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@...tuozzo.com>,
        Evgenii Stepanov <eugenis@...gle.com>,
        Branislav Rankov <Branislav.Rankov@....com>,
        Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@....com>,
        kasan-dev <kasan-dev@...glegroups.com>,
        Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/11] kasan: add compiler barriers to KUNIT_EXPECT_KASAN_FAIL

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 8:50 PM Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@...gle.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 9:18 AM Alexander Potapenko <glider@...gle.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 7:28 PM Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@...gle.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > It might not be obvious to the compiler that the expression must be
> > > executed between writing and reading to fail_data. In this case, the
> > > compiler might reorder or optimize away some of the accesses, and
> > > the tests will fail.
> >
> > Have you seen this happen in practice?
>
> Yes.
>
> > Are these accesses to fail_data that are optimized (in which case we
> > could make it volatile)?
>
> Yes. AFAIU compiler doesn't expect expression to change fail_data
> fields, no those accesses and checks are optimized away.

Ah, actually no, it reorders the expression and puts it after
fail_data fields checks. That's why I put the barriers.

> > Note that compiler barriers won't probably help against removing
> > memory accesses, they only prevent reordering.

But using WRITE/READ_ONCE() might also be a good idea, as technically
the compiler can optimize away the accesses.

Powered by blists - more mailing lists