linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] procfs/dmabuf: Add /proc/<pid>/task/<tid>/dmabuf

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Date:   Wed, 27 Jan 2021 11:57:03 +0100
From:   Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>
To:     Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] procfs/dmabuf: Add /proc/<pid>/task/<tid>/dmabuf_fds

On Wed 27-01-21 11:47:29, Jann Horn wrote:
> +jeffv from Android
> 
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 11:51 PM Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@...gle.com> wrote:
> > In order to measure how much memory a process actually consumes, it is
> > necessary to include the DMA buffer sizes for that process in the memory
> > accounting. Since the handle to DMA buffers are raw FDs, it is important
> > to be able to identify which processes have FD references to a DMA buffer.
> 
> Or you could try to let the DMA buffer take a reference on the
> mm_struct and account its size into the mm_struct? That would probably
> be nicer to work with than having to poke around in procfs separately
> for DMA buffers.

Yes that would make some sense to me as well but how do you know that
the process actually uses a buffer? If it mmaps it then you already have
that information via /proc/<pid>/maps. My understanding of dma-buf is
really coarse but my impression is that you can consume the memory via
standard read syscall as well. How would you account for that.

[...]
Skipping over a large part of your response but I do agree that the
interface is really elaborate to drill down to the information.

> I'm not convinced that introducing a new procfs file for this is the
> right way to go. And the idea of having to poke into multiple
> different files in procfs and in sysfs just to be able to compute a
> proper memory usage score for a process seems weird to me. "How much
> memory is this process using" seems like the kind of question the
> kernel ought to be able to answer (and the kernel needs to be able to
> answer somewhat accurately so that its own OOM killer can do its job
> properly)?

Well, shared buffers are tricky but it is true that we already consider
shmem in badness so this wouldn't go out of line. Kernel oom killer
could be more clever with these special fds though and query for buffer
size directly.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs