linux-kernel - Re: dax alignment problem on arm64 (and other achitectures)

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Message-ID: <CAPcyv4jLmDvQ+e7QSQjOsAccSnhpvm9J5kHsA1OCXcaOm7BrMA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Fri, 29 Jan 2021 12:26:07 -0800
From:   Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>
To:     Pavel Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@...een.com>
Cc:     David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>,
        linux-mm <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Sasha Levin <sashal@...nel.org>,
        Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@...ux.microsoft.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>,
        Oscar Salvador <osalvador@...e.de>,
        Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@....com>,
        Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca>, Marc Zyngier <maz@...nel.org>,
        Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
        James Morse <james.morse@....com>,
        James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>
Subject: Re: dax alignment problem on arm64 (and other achitectures)

On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 5:51 AM Pavel Tatashin
<pasha.tatashin@...een.com> wrote:
>
> > Since we last talked about this the enabling for EFI "Special Purpose"
> > / Soft Reserved Memory has gone upstream and instantiates device-dax
> > instances for address ranges marked with EFI_MEMORY_SP attribute.
> > Critically this way of declaring device-dax removes the consideration
> > of it as persistent memory and as such no metadata reservation. So, if
> > you are willing to maintain the metadata external to the device (which
> > seems reasonable for your environment) and have your platform firmware
> > / kernel command line mark it as EFI_CONVENTIONAL_MEMORY +
> > EFI_MEMORY_SP, then these reserve-free dax-devices will surface.
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> This is cool. Does it allow conversion between devdax and fsdax so DAX
> aware filesystem can be installed and data can be put there to be
> preserved across the reboot?
>

It does not because it's not "pmem" by this designation.

Instead if you want fsdax, zero metadata on the device, and the
ability to switch from fsdax to devdax I think that could be achieved
with a new sysfs attribute at the region-device level. Currently the
mode of a namespace with no metadata on it defaults to "raw" mode
where "raw" treats the pmem as a persistent memory block device with
no DAX capability. There's no reason the default could instead be
devdax with pages mapped.

Something like:
ndctl disable-region region0
echo 1 > /sys/bus/nd/devices/region0/pagemap
echo devdax > /sys/bus/nd/devices/region0/raw_default
ndctl enable-region region0

...where the new pagemap attribute does set_bit(ND_REGION_PAGEMAP,
&nd_region->flags), and raw_default arranges for the namespace to be
shunted over to devdax.