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Message-ID: <YBrHPqlQHppzBPpn@kroah.com>
Date:   Wed, 3 Feb 2021 16:54:38 +0100
From:   Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
To:     Jessica Yu <jeyu@...nel.org>
Cc:     Will McVicker <willmcvicker@...gle.com>,
        Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@...nel.org>,
        Michal Marek <michal.lkml@...kovi.net>,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
        Saravana Kannan <saravanak@...gle.com>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-kbuild@...r.kernel.org,
        kernel-team@...roid.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6] modules: introduce the MODULE_SCMVERSION config

On Wed, Feb 03, 2021 at 04:46:16PM +0100, Jessica Yu wrote:
> +++ Will McVicker [21/01/21 21:36 +0000]:
> > Config MODULE_SCMVERSION introduces a new module attribute --
> > `scmversion` -- which can be used to identify a given module's SCM
> > version.  This is very useful for developers that update their kernel
> > independently from their kernel modules or vice-versa since the SCM
> > version provided by UTS_RELEASE (`uname -r`) will now differ from the
> > module's vermagic attribute.
> > 
> > For example, we have a CI setup that tests new kernel changes on the
> > hikey960 and db845c devices without updating their kernel modules. When
> > these tests fail, we need to be able to identify the exact device
> > configuration the test was using. By including MODULE_SCMVERSION, we can
> > identify the exact kernel and modules' SCM versions for debugging the
> > failures.
> > 
> > Additionally, by exposing the SCM version via the sysfs node
> > /sys/module/MODULENAME/scmversion, one can also verify the SCM versions
> > of the modules loaded from the initramfs. Currently, modinfo can only
> > retrieve module attributes from the module's ko on disk and not from the
> > actual module that is loaded in RAM.
> > 
> > You can retrieve the SCM version in two ways,
> > 
> > 1) By using modinfo:
> >    > modinfo -F scmversion MODULENAME
> > 2) By module sysfs node:
> >    > cat /sys/module/MODULENAME/scmversion
> 
> Hi Will,
> 
> First off, thanks for being patient and being responsive throughout the patch
> review process.
> 
> Personally, I am rather neutral towards this feature. We already provide
> CONFIG_MODULE_SRCVERSION to provide a checksum of a module's source files and I
> think the SCMVERSION is a nicer alternative. I can see how an optional
> scmversion field might be helpful information for distro developers in testing
> environments and in situations where it is possible for the kernel and modules
> to be updated/packaged separately (for instance, the kernel selftest modules
> under lib/ are in-tree modules that are provided as a separate kernel module
> package in SLE).
> 
> Generally, out of principle, I do not want to merge a patch that's been NAK'd
> repeatedly; even if I take the patch it'd likely be contested all the way up to
> the merge window. So this boils down to whether Christoph (and maybe Greg) are
> fine with this being a debug option that's not enabled by default.

I am neutral on this, I don't care one way or the other.

thanks,

greg k-h

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