linux-kernel - Re: [RFC v1 05/26] x86/traps: Add #VE support for TDX guest

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Message-ID: <YCbfyde9jl7ti0Oz@google.com>
Date:   Fri, 12 Feb 2021 12:06:33 -0800
From:   Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>
To:     Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>
Cc:     Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan 
        <sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@...ux.intel.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
        Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
        Kirill Shutemov <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>,
        Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan <knsathya@...nel.org>,
        Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>,
        Raj Ashok <ashok.raj@...el.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1 05/26] x86/traps: Add #VE support for TDX guest

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 3:39 PM Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
> <sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>
> >
> > The TDX module injects #VE exception to the guest TD in cases of
> > disallowed instructions, disallowed MSR accesses and subset of CPUID
> > leaves. Also, it's theoretically possible for CPU to inject #VE
> > exception on EPT violation, but the TDX module makes sure this does
> > not happen, as long as all memory used is properly accepted using
> > TDCALLs.
> 
> By my very cursory reading of the TDX arch specification 9.8.2,
> "Secure" EPT violations don't send #VE.  But the docs are quite
> unclear, or at least the docs I found are.

The version I have also states that SUPPRESS_VE is always set.  So either there
was a change in direction, or the public docs need to be updated.  Lazy accept
requires a #VE, either from hardware or from the module.  The latter would
require walking the Secure EPT tables on every EPT violation...

> What happens if the guest attempts to access a secure GPA that is not
> ACCEPTed?  For example, suppose the VMM does THH.MEM.PAGE.REMOVE on a secure
> address and the guest accesses it, via instruction fetch or data access.
> What happens?

Well, as currently written in the spec, it will generate an EPT violation and
the host will have no choice but to kill the guest.