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Date:   Fri, 12 Feb 2021 18:01:36 -0500
From:   Peter Xu <peterx@...hat.com>
To:     Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@...gle.com>
Cc:     Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
        Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@...il.com>,
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        Oliver Upton <oupton@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 05/10] userfaultfd: add minor fault registration mode

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 02:51:17PM -0800, Axel Rasmussen wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 2:44 PM Peter Xu <peterx@...hat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:21:45PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 11:28:09AM -0800, Axel Rasmussen wrote:
> > > > Ah, I had added this just after VM_UFFD_WP, without noticing that this
> > > > would be sharing a bit with VM_LOCKED. That seems like not such a
> > > > great idea.
> > > >
> > > > I don't see another unused bit, and I don't see some other obvious
> > > > candidate to share with. So, the solution that comes to mind is
> > >
> > > it'd be even better if you didn't use the last unused bit for UFFD_WP.
> > > not sure how feasible that is, but you can see we're really short on
> > > bits here.
> >
> > UFFD_WP is used now for anonymouse already.. And the support for hugetlbfs and
> > shmem is in rfc stage on the list.
> >
> > Is it possible to use CONFIG_ARCH_USES_HIGH_VMA_FLAGS here?  So far uffd-wp is
> > only working for 64 bit x86 too due to enlarged pte space.  Maybe we can also
> > let minor mode to only support 64 bit hosts.
> 
> At least for my / Google's purposes, I don't care about 32-bit support
> for this feature. I do care about both x86_64 and arm64, though. So
> it's a possibility.
> 
> Alternatively, the "it's an API feature not a registration mode"
> approach I sent in my v6 also works for me, although it has some
> drawbacks.

Per-vma has finer granularity and logically more flexible.  If it's low hanging
fruit, let's think about it more before giving up so quickly.

Sorry I commented late for this - I got diverged a bit in the past days.  While
you worked on it so fast (which in many cases still a good thing :).

> 
> Another option is, would it be terrible to add an extra u16 or u32 for
> UFFD flags to vm_area_struct (say within vm_userfaultfd_ctx)?
> Historically we've already added a pointer, so maybe an extra say 16
> bits isn't so bad? This would avoid using *any* VM_* flags for UFFD,
> even VM_UFFD_MISSING could be in this new flag field.

For 64bit hosts there're still places for vm_flags.  It's just 32bit, while
there's option to make it 64bit-only.  Even if we'd add a new field, those bits
were still unused on 64bit hosts.  IMHO we should try to use them before adding
new field which will actually impact all hosts.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu

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