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Date:   Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:48:30 -0800
From:   Saravana Kannan <saravanak@...gle.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/8] Make fw_devlink=on more forgiving

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 12:05 AM Geert Uytterhoeven
<geert@...ux-m68k.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Saravana,
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:27 PM Saravana Kannan <saravanak@...gle.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 4:38 AM Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 4:00 AM Saravana Kannan <saravanak@...gle.com> wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 5:00 AM Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org> wrote:
> > > > >       - I2C on R-Car Gen3 does not seem to use DMA, according to
> > > > >         /sys/kernel/debug/dmaengine/summary:
> > > > >
> > > > >             -dma4chan0    | e66d8000.i2c:tx
> > > > >             -dma4chan1    | e66d8000.i2c:rx
> > > > >             -dma5chan0    | e6510000.i2c:tx
> > > >
> > > > I think I need more context on the problem before I can try to fix it.
> > > > I'm also very unfamiliar with that file. With fw_devlink=permissive,
> > > > I2C was using DMA? If so, the next step is to see if the I2C relative
> > > > probe order with DMA is getting changed and if so, why.
> > >
> > > More detailed log:
> > >
> > >     platform e66d8000.i2c: Linked as a consumer to e6150000.clock-controller
> > >     platform e66d8000.i2c: Linked as a sync state only consumer to e6055400.gpio
> > >
> > > Why is e66d8000.i2c not linked as a consumer to e6700000.dma-controller?
> >
> > Because fw_devlink.strict=1 is not set and dma/iommu is considered an
> > "optional"/"driver decides" dependency.
>
> Oh, I thought dma/iommu were considered mandatory initially,
> but dropped as dependencies in the late boot process?

No, I didn't do that in case the drivers that didn't need the
IOMMU/DMA were sensitive to probe order.

My goal was for fw_devlink=on to not affect probe order for devices
that currently don't need to defer probe. But see below...

>
> >
> > >     platform e6700000.dma-controller: Linked as a consumer to
> > > e6150000.clock-controller
> >
> > Is this the only supplier of dma-controller?
>
> No, e6180000.system-controller is also a supplier.
>
> > >     platform e66d8000.i2c: Added to deferred list
> > >     platform e6700000.dma-controller: Added to deferred list
> > >
> > >     bus: 'platform': driver_probe_device: matched device
> > > e6700000.dma-controller with driver rcar-dmac
> > >     bus: 'platform': really_probe: probing driver rcar-dmac with
> > > device e6700000.dma-controller
> > >     platform e6700000.dma-controller: Driver rcar-dmac requests probe deferral
> > >
> > >     bus: 'platform': driver_probe_device: matched device e66d8000.i2c
> > > with driver i2c-rcar
> > >     bus: 'platform': really_probe: probing driver i2c-rcar with device
> > > e66d8000.i2c
> > >
> > > I2C becomes available...
> > >
> > >     i2c-rcar e66d8000.i2c: request_channel failed for tx (-517)
> > >     [...]
> > >
> > > but DMA is not available yet, so the driver falls back to PIO.
> > >
> > >     driver: 'i2c-rcar': driver_bound: bound to device 'e66d8000.i2c'
> > >     bus: 'platform': really_probe: bound device e66d8000.i2c to driver i2c-rcar
> > >
> > >     platform e6700000.dma-controller: Retrying from deferred list
> > >     bus: 'platform': driver_probe_device: matched device
> > > e6700000.dma-controller with driver rcar-dmac
> > >     bus: 'platform': really_probe: probing driver rcar-dmac with
> > > device e6700000.dma-controller
> > >     platform e6700000.dma-controller: Driver rcar-dmac requests probe deferral
> > >     platform e6700000.dma-controller: Added to deferred list
> > >     platform e6700000.dma-controller: Retrying from deferred list
> > >     bus: 'platform': driver_probe_device: matched device
> > > e6700000.dma-controller with driver rcar-dmac
> > >     bus: 'platform': really_probe: probing driver rcar-dmac with
> > > device e6700000.dma-controller
> > >     driver: 'rcar-dmac': driver_bound: bound to device 'e6700000.dma-controller'
> > >     bus: 'platform': really_probe: bound device
> > > e6700000.dma-controller to driver rcar-dmac
> > >
> > > DMA becomes available.
> > >
> > > Here userspace is entered. /sys/kernel/debug/dmaengine/summary shows
> > > that the I2C controllers do not have DMA channels allocated, as the
> > > kernel has performed no more I2C transfers after DMA became available.
> > >
> > > Using i2cdetect shows that DMA is used, which is good:
> > >
> > >     i2c-rcar e66d8000.i2c: got DMA channel for rx
> > >
> > > With permissive devlinks, the clock controller consumers are not added
> > > to the deferred probing list, and probe order is slightly different.
> > > The I2C controllers are still probed before the DMA controllers.
> > > But DMA becomes available a bit earlier, before the probing of the last
> > > I2C slave driver.
> >
> > This seems like a race? I'm guessing it's two different threads
> > probing those two devices? And it just happens to work for
> > "permissive" assuming the boot timing doesn't change?
> >
> > > Hence /sys/kernel/debug/dmaengine/summary shows that
> > > some I2C transfers did use DMA.
> > >
> > > So the real issue is that e66d8000.i2c not linked as a consumer to
> > > e6700000.dma-controller.
> >
> > That's because fw_devlink.strict=1 isn't set. If you need DMA to be
> > treated as a mandatory supplier, you'll need to set the flag.
> >
> > Is fw_devlink=on really breaking anything here? It just seems like
> > "permissive" got lucky with the timing and it could break at any point
> > in the future. Thought?
>
> I don't think there is a race.

Can you explain more please? This below makes it sound like DMA just
sneaks in at the last minute.

> > > The I2C controllers are still probed before the DMA controllers.
> > > But DMA becomes available a bit earlier, before the probing of the last
> > > I2C slave driver.

>  fw_devlinks calling driver_deferred_probe_add()
> on all consumers has a big impact on probe order.

Ugh... yeah. That's the real issue. This is really a device links
issue that fw_devlink is exposing. I already have a bunch of things in
my TODO list to improve deferred probing and probe ordering. Since
this is not causing boot issues (only DMA issue) with fw_devlink=on,
can we treat this as not a blocking item for fw_devlink=on? Once I go
through my TODO list, it should be fixed (by not changing probe
ordering unnecessarily). And if not, I can help find out a different
solution at that point.

Also, if you have IOMMU drivers, then fw_devlink.strict is also
another solution that's available. On a separate note (not a final
fix), I was wondering if we should have a config for fw_devlink.strict
default value and then have it selected when IOMMU drivers configs are
enabled.

-Saravana

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