linux-kernel - Re: 5.10 LTS Kernel: 2 or 6 years?

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Date:   Fri, 19 Feb 2021 09:30:18 +0100
From:   Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
To:     Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
Cc:     Ondrej Zary <linux@...y.sk>,
        Jari Ruusu <jariruusu@...rs.sourceforge.net>,
        Willy Tarreau <w@....eu>,
        Scott Branden <scott.branden@...adcom.com>,
        Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        BCM Kernel Feedback <bcm-kernel-feedback-list@...adcom.com>
Subject: Re: 5.10 LTS Kernel: 2 or 6 years?

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 09:00:27AM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > > > > For me
> > > > > only way to get properly working WiFi on my laptop computer is to
> > > > > compile that Intel out-of-tree version. Sad, but true.
> > > > 
> > > > Why use 4.19.y on a laptop in the firstplace?  That feels very wrong and
> > > > is not the recommended thing to use the LTS kernels for.
> > > 
> > > Well, that's actually what distributions are doing, for example Debian
> > > 10.8 is on 4.19...
> > 
> > There's 5.10 in buster-backports. That's probably the easiest way to get support for new HW.
> >  
> 
> I can compile my own kernel, too. But if you go up the thread, it is
> about iwlwifi becoming broken in 4.19, and Greg saying it is wrong
> to put -stable on laptop. And -stable on laptop is norm, not the
> exception.

If distros want to "camp out" on an old kernel version, that's fine, as
I describe in:
	http://www.kroah.com/log/blog/2018/08/24/what-stable-kernel-should-i-use/
many years ago.

But for someone using a device where they want to use "new" hardware,
that was made _after_ the kernel version was released, that's just
someone who needs to pick a better distro :)

thanks,

greg k-h