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Date:   Fri, 19 Feb 2021 09:44:40 +0000
From:   Ionela Voinescu <ionela.voinescu@....com>
To:     Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@...aro.org>
Cc:     Rafael Wysocki <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
        Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
        Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
        Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
        linux-pm@...r.kernel.org, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@....com>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 1/2] topology: Allow multiple entities to provide
 sched_freq_tick() callback

On Friday 19 Feb 2021 at 10:28:23 (+0530), Viresh Kumar wrote:
> On 18-02-21, 16:36, Ionela Voinescu wrote:
> > Yes, we don't care if there is no cpufreq driver, as the use of AMUs won't
> > get initialised either. But we do care if there is a cpufreq driver that
> > does not support frequency invariance, which is the example above.
> > 
> > The intention with the patches that made cpufreq based invariance generic
> > a while back was for it to be present, seamlessly, for as many drivers as
> > possible, as a less than accurate invariance default method is still
> > better than nothing.
> 
> Right.
> 
> > So only a few drivers today don't support cpufreq based FI
> 
> Only two AFAICT, both x86, and the AMU stuff doesn't conflict with
> them.
> 
> drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
> drivers/cpufreq/longrun.c
> 
> > but it's not a guarantee that it will stay this way.
> 
> What do you mean by "no guarantee" here ?
> 
> The very core routines (cpufreq_freq_transition_end() and
> cpufreq_driver_fast_switch()) of the cpufreq core call
> arch_set_freq_scale() today and this isn't going to change anytime
> soon. If something gets changed there someone will need to see other
> parts of the kernel which may get broken with that.
> 

Yes, but it won't really be straightforward to notice this breakage if
that happens, so in my opinion it was worth to keep that condition.

> I don't see any need of complicating other parts of the kernel like,
> amu or cppc code for that. They should be kept simple and they should
> assume cpufreq invariance will be supported as it is today.
> 

Fair enough! It is a corner case after all.

Thanks,
Ionela.

> -- 
> viresh

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