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Date:   Tue, 2 Mar 2021 15:50:19 -0800
From:   "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>
To:     Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
Cc:     Björn Töpel <bjorn.topel@...il.com>,
        bpf <bpf@...r.kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        parri.andrea@...il.com, Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, boqun.feng@...il.com,
        npiggin@...il.com, dhowells@...hat.com, j.alglave@....ac.uk,
        luc.maranget@...ia.fr, akiyks@...il.com, dlustig@...dia.com,
        joel@...lfernandes.org,
        Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@...hat.com>,
        "Karlsson, Magnus" <magnus.karlsson@...el.com>
Subject: Re: XDP socket rings, and LKMM litmus tests

On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 04:14:46PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 07:46:27PM +0100, Björn Töpel wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > Firstly; The long Cc-list is to reach the LKMM-folks.
> > 
> > Some background; the XDP sockets use a ring-buffer to communicate
> > between the kernel and userland. It's a
> > single-consumer/single-producer ring, and described in
> > net/xdp/xsk_queue.h.
> > 
> > --8<---
> > /* The structure of the shared state of the rings are the same as the
> >  * ring buffer in kernel/events/ring_buffer.c. For the Rx and completion
> >  * ring, the kernel is the producer and user space is the consumer. For
> >  * the Tx and fill rings, the kernel is the consumer and user space is
> >  * the producer.
> >  *
> >  * producer                         consumer
> >  *
> >  * if (LOAD ->consumer) {           LOAD ->producer
> >  *                    (A)           smp_rmb()       (C)
> >  *    STORE $data                   LOAD $data
> >  *    smp_wmb()       (B)           smp_mb()        (D)
> >  *    STORE ->producer              STORE ->consumer
> >  * }
> >  *
> >  * (A) pairs with (D), and (B) pairs with (C).
> > ...
> > -->8---
> > 
> > I'd like to replace the smp_{r,w,}mb() barriers with acquire-release
> > semantics [1], without breaking existing userspace applications.
> > 
> > So, I figured I'd use herd7 and the LKMM model to build a litmus test
> > for the barrier version, then for the acquire-release version, and
> > finally permutations of both.
> > 
> > The idea is to use a one element ring, with a state machine outlined
> > in the litmus test.
> > 
> > The basic test for the existing smp_{r,w,}mb() barriers looks like:
> > 
> > $ cat spsc-rb+1p1c.litmus
> > C spsc-rb+1p1c
> > 
> > // Stupid one entry ring:
> > // prod cons     allowed action       prod cons
> > //    0    0 =>       prod          =>   1    0
> > //    0    1 =>       cons          =>   0    0
> > //    1    0 =>       cons          =>   1    1
> > //    1    1 =>       prod          =>   0    1
> > 
> > { prod = 1; }
> > 
> > // Here, we start at prod==1,cons==0, data==0, i.e. producer has
> > // written data=0, so from here only the consumer can start, and should
> > // consume data==0. Afterwards, producer can continue and write 1 to
> > // data. Can we enter state prod==0, cons==1, but consumer observerd
> > // the write of 1?
> > 
> > P0(int *prod, int *cons, int *data)
> > {
> >     int p;
> >     int c;
> >     int cond = 0;
> > 
> >     p = READ_ONCE(*prod);
> >     c = READ_ONCE(*cons);
> >     if (p == 0)
> >         if (c == 0)
> >             cond = 1;
> >     if (p == 1)
> >         if (c == 1)
> >             cond = 1;
> > 
> >     if (cond) {
> >         smp_mb();
> >         WRITE_ONCE(*data, 1);
> >         smp_wmb();
> >         WRITE_ONCE(*prod, p ^ 1);
> >     }
> > }
> > 
> > P1(int *prod, int *cons, int *data)
> > {
> >     int p;
> >     int c;
> >     int d = -1;
> >     int cond = 0;
> > 
> >     p = READ_ONCE(*prod);
> >     c = READ_ONCE(*cons);
> >     if (p == 1)
> >         if (c == 0)
> >             cond = 1;
> >     if (p == 0)
> >         if (c == 1)
> >             cond = 1;
> > 
> >     if (cond == 1) {
> >         smp_rmb();
> >         d = READ_ONCE(*data);
> >         smp_mb();
> >         WRITE_ONCE(*cons, c ^ 1);
> >     }
> > }
> > 
> > exists( 1:d=1 /\ prod=0 /\ cons=1 );
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > The weird state changing if-statements is because that I didn't get
> > '&&' and '||' to work with herd.
> > 
> > When this is run:
> > 
> > $ herd7 -conf linux-kernel.cfg litmus-tests/spsc-rb+1p1c.litmus
> > Test spsc-rb+1p1c Allowed
> > States 2
> > 1:d=0; cons=1; prod=0;
> > 1:d=0; cons=1; prod=1;
> > No
> > Witnesses
> > Positive: 0 Negative: 2
> > Condition exists (1:d=1 /\ prod=0 /\ cons=1)
> > Observation spsc-rb+1p1c Never 0 2
> > Time spsc-rb+1p1c 0.04
> > Hash=b399756d6a1301ca5bda042f32130791
> > 
> > Now to my question; In P0 there's an smp_mb(). Without that, the d==1
> > can be observed from P1 (consumer):
> > 
> > $ herd7 -conf linux-kernel.cfg litmus-tests/spsc-rb+1p1c.litmus
> > Test spsc-rb+1p1c Allowed
> > States 3
> > 1:d=0; cons=1; prod=0;
> > 1:d=0; cons=1; prod=1;
> > 1:d=1; cons=1; prod=0;
> > Ok
> > Witnesses
> > Positive: 1 Negative: 2
> > Condition exists (1:d=1 /\ prod=0 /\ cons=1)
> > Observation spsc-rb+1p1c Sometimes 1 2
> > Time spsc-rb+1p1c 0.04
> > Hash=0047fc21fa77da9a9aee15e35ec367ef
> 
> This result is wrong, apparently because of a bug in herd7.  There 
> should be control dependencies from each of the two loads in P0 to each 
> of the two stores, but herd7 doesn't detect them.
> 
> Maybe Luc can find some time to check whether this really is a bug and 
> if it is, fix it.

I agree that herd7's control dependency tracking could be improved.

But sadly, it is currently doing exactly what I asked Luc to make it do,
which is to confine the control dependency to its "if" statement.  But as
usual I wasn't thinking globally enough.  And I am not exactly sure what
to ask for.  Here a store to a local was control-dependency ordered after
a read, and so that should propagate to a read from that local variable.
Maybe treat local variables as if they were registers, so that from
herd7's viewpoint the READ_ONCE()s are able to head control-dependency
chains in multiple "if" statements?

Thoughts?

							Thanx, Paul

> > In commit c7f2e3cd6c1f ("perf: Optimize ring-buffer write by depending
> > on control dependencies") removes the corresponding smp_mb(), and also
> > the circular buffer in circular-buffers.txt (pre commit 6c43c091bdc5
> > ("documentation: Update circular buffer for
> > load-acquire/store-release")) is missing the smp_mb() at the
> > producer-side.
> > 
> > I'm trying to wrap my head around why it's OK to remove the smp_mb()
> > in the cases above? I'm worried that the current XDP socket ring
> > implementation (which is missing smp_mb()) might be broken.
> 
> Because of the control dependencies, the smp_mb isn't needed.  The 
> dependencies will order both of the stores after both of the loads.
> 
> Alan Stern

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