linux-kernel - Re: [RFT PATCH v3 12/27] of/address: Add infrastructure to declare MMIO as non-posted

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Message-ID: <332c0b9a-dcfd-4c3b-9038-47cbda90eb3f@marcan.st>
Date:   Wed, 10 Mar 2021 17:26:54 +0900
From:   Hector Martin <marcan@...can.st>
To:     Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFT PATCH v3 12/27] of/address: Add infrastructure to declare
 MMIO as non-posted

On 10/03/2021 07.06, Rob Herring wrote:
>> My main concern here is that this creates an inconsistency in the device
>> tree representation that only works because PCI drivers happen not to
>> use these code paths. Logically, having "nonposted-mmio" above the PCI
>> controller would imply that it applies to that bus too. Sure, it doesn't
>> matter for Linux since it is ignored, but this creates an implicit
>> exception that PCI buses always use posted modes.
> 
> We could be stricter that "nonposted-mmio" must be in the immediate
> parent. That's kind of in line with how addressing already works.
> Every level has to have 'ranges' to be an MMIO address, and the
> address cell size is set by the immediate parent.
> 
>> Then if a device comes along that due to some twisted fabric logic needs
>> nonposted nGnRnE mappings for PCIe (even though the actual PCIe ops will
>> end up posted at the bus anyway)... how do we represent that? Declare
>> that another "nonposted-mmio" on the PCIe bus means "no, really, use
>> nonposted mmio for this"?
> 
> If we're strict, yes. The PCI host bridge would have to have "nonposted-mmio".

Works for me; then let's just make it non-recursive.

Do you think we can get rid of the Apple-only optimization if we do 
this? It would mean only looking at the parent during address 
resolution, not recursing all the way to the top, so presumably the 
performance impact would be quite minimal.

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Hector Martin (marcan@...can.st)
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