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Message-ID: <20210311175054.GA2696@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72>
Date:   Thu, 11 Mar 2021 09:50:54 -0800
From:   "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>
To:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:     Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>,
        Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@...cle.com>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@...gle.com>,
        tglx@...utronix.de, john.ogness@...utronix.de, urezki@...il.com,
        ast@...com, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
        Mina Almasry <almasrymina@...gle.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] hugetlb: select PREEMPT_COUNT if HUGETLB_PAGE for
 in_atomic use

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 12:36:51PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 12:09:15PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> 
> > Sorry for being dense but I do not follow. You have provided the
> > following example
> >   spin_lock(&A);
> >   <IRQ>
> >         spin_lock(&A);
> > 
> > if A == hugetlb_lock then we should never reenter with
> > free_huge_page
> 
> What I'm saying is that if irq_disabled(), the that interrupt cannot
> happen, so the second spin_lock cannot happen, so the deadlock cannot
> happen.
> 
> So: '!irqs_disabled() && in_atomic()' is sufficient to avoid the IRQ
> recursion deadlock.
> 
> Also, Linus hates constructs like this:
> 
>   https://lkml.kernel.org/r/CAHk-=wht7kAeyR5xEW2ORj7m0hibVxZ3t+2ie8vNHLQfdbN2_g@mail.gmail.com

To be fair, later in that same thread Linus states that his main concern
is not core code, but rather driver code:

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=wjsMycgMHJrCmeetR3r+K5bpSRtmVWfd8iaoQCYd_VYAg@mail.gmail.com/

Nevertheless, if the job can be done reasonably without checking the
preemption/interrupt state, why not?  And Mike's patch is still useful
for people hitting this bug.

							Thanx, Paul

> > From the code simplicity POV (and hugetlb has grown a lot of complexity)
> > it would be really easiest to make sure __free_huge_page to be called
> > from a non-atomic process context. There are few ways to do that
> > - defer each call to a WQ - user visible which sucks
> > - defer from atomic or otherwise non-sleeping contextx - requires
> >   reliable in_atomic AFAICS
> > - defer sleeping operations - makes the code flow more complex and it
> >   would be again user visible in some cases.
> > 
> > So I would say we are in "pick your own poison" kind of situation.
> 
> Just to be clear:
> 
> NAK on this patch and any and all ductape crap. Fix it properly, make
> hugetlb_lock, spool->lock IRQ-safe, move the workqueue into the CMA
> thing.
> 
> The code really doesn't look _that_ complicated.

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