linux-kernel - Re: GTE - The hardware timestamping engine

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Date:   Sat, 20 Mar 2021 13:44:20 +0100
From:   Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>
To:     Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@...aro.org>
Cc:     Dipen Patel <dipenp@...dia.com>,
        Kent Gibson <warthog618@...il.com>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "thierry.reding@...il.com" <thierry.reding@...il.com>,
        Jon Hunter <jonathanh@...dia.com>,
        Bartosz Golaszewski <bgolaszewski@...libre.com>,
        "open list:GPIO SUBSYSTEM" <linux-gpio@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-tegra <linux-tegra@...r.kernel.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Richard Cochran <richardcochran@...il.com>,
        Networking <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: GTE - The hardware timestamping engine

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 12:56 PM Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@...aro.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Dipen,
>
> thanks for your mail!
>
> I involved some other kernel people to get some discussion.
> I think Kent Gibson can be of great help because he is using
> GPIOs with high precision.
>
> We actually discussed this a bit when adding support for
> realtime timestamps.

Adding Richard Cochran as well, for drivers/ptp/, he may be able to
identify whether this should be integrated into that framework in some
form.

fullquote below

> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 11:29 PM Dipen Patel <dipenp@...dia.com> wrote:
>
> > Nvidia Tegra SoCs have generic timestamping engine (GTE) hardware module which
> > can monitor SoC signals like IRQ lines and GPIO lines for state change, upon
> > detecting the change, it can timestamp and store in its internal hardware FIFO.
> > The advantage of the GTE module can be realized in applications like robotics
> > or autonomous vehicle where it can help record events with precise timestamp.
>
> That sounds very useful.
>
> Certainly the kernel shall be able to handle this.
>
> > ============
> > For GPIO:
> > ============
> > 1.  GPIO has to be configured as input and IRQ must be enabled.
> > 2.  Ask GPIO controller driver to set corresponding timestamp bit in the
> >     specified GPIO config register.
> > 3.  Translate GPIO specified by the client to its internal bitmap.
> > 3.a For example, If client specifies GPIO line 31, it could be bit 13 of GTE
> >     register.
> > 4.  Set internal bits to enable monitoring in GTE module
> > 5.  Additionally GTE driver can open up lanes for the user space application
> >     as a client and can send timestamping events directly to the application.
>
> I have some concerns:
>
> 1. GPIO should for all professional applications be used with the character
> device /dev/gpiochipN, under no circumstances shall the old sysfs
> ABI be used for this. In this case it is necessary because the
> character device provides events in a FIFO to userspace, which is
> what we need.
>
> The timestamp provided to userspace is an opaque 64bit
> unsigned value. I suppose we assume it is monotonic but
> you can actually augment the semantics for your specific
> stamp, as long as 64 bits is gonna work.
>
> 2. The timestamp for the chardev is currently obtained in
> drivers/gpio/gpiolib-cdev.c like this:
>
> static u64 line_event_timestamp(struct line *line)
> {
>         if (test_bit(FLAG_EVENT_CLOCK_REALTIME, &line->desc->flags))
>                 return ktime_get_real_ns();
>
>         return ktime_get_ns();
> }
>
> What you want to do is to add a new flag for hardware timestamps
> and use that if available. FLAG_EVENT_CLOCK_HARDWARE?
> FLAG_EVENT_CLOCK_NATIVE?
>
> Then you need to figure out a mechanism so we can obtain
> the right timestamp from the hardware event right here,
> you can hook into the GPIO driver if need be, we can
> figure out the gpio_chip for a certain line for sure.
>
> So you first need to augment the userspace
> ABI and the character device code to add this. See
> commit 26d060e47e25f2c715a1b2c48fea391f67907a30
> "gpiolib: cdev: allow edge event timestamps to be configured as REALTIME"
> by Kent Gibson to see what needs to be done.
>
> 3. Also patch tools/gpio/gpio-event-mon.c to support this flag and use that
> for prototyping and proof of concept.
>
> > ============
> > For IRQ:
> > ============
>
> Marc Zyngier and/or Thomas Gleixner know this stuff.
>
> It does make sense to add some infrastructure so that GPIO events
> and IRQs can use the same timestamping hardware.
>
> And certainly you will also want to use this timestamp for
> IIO devices? If it is just GPIOs and IRQs today, it will be
> gyroscopes and accelerometers tomorrow, am I right?
>
> Yours,
> Linus Walleij