linux-kernel - Re: [GIT PULL] ext4 fixes for v5.12

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Message-ID: <20210322034717.GA1937141@xiangao.remote.csb>
Date:   Mon, 22 Mar 2021 11:47:17 +0800
From:   Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@...hat.com>
To:     Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>
Cc:     "zhangyi (F)" <yi.zhang@...wei.com>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] ext4 fixes for v5.12

On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 11:36:10PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 11:05:13AM +0800, Gao Xiang wrote:
> > I think the legel name would be "Zhang Yi" (family name goes first [1])
> > according to
> > The Chinese phonetic alphabet spelling rules for Chinese names [2].
> > 
> > Indeed, that is also what the legel name is written in alphabet on our
> > passport or credit/debit cards.
> > 
> > Also, many official English-written materials use it in that way, for
> > example, a somewhat famous bastetball player Yao Ming [3][4][5].
> > 
> > That is what I wrote my own name as this but I also noticed the western
> > ordering of names is quite common for Chinese people in Linux kernel.
> > Anyway, it's just my preliminary personal thought (might be just my
> > own perference) according to (I think, maybe) formal occasions.
> 

Hi Ted,

> Yeah, there doesn't seem to be a lot of consistency with the ordering
> of Chinese names when they are written in Roman characters.  Some
> people put the family name first, and other people will put the
> personal (first) name first.  In some cases it may be because the
> developer in question is living in America, and so they've decided to
> use the American naming convention.  (Two example of this are former
> ext4 developers Mingming Cao and Jiaying Zhang, who live in Portland
> and Los Angelos, and their family names are Cao and Zhang,
> respectively.)

Yes, totally agree. I think that's all our own perference honestly
(yet just showed some local official materials though.)

> 
> My personal opinion is people should use whatever name they are
> comfortable with, using whatever characters they prefer.  The one

Totally agree.

> thing that would be helpful for me is for people to give a hint about
> how they would prefer to be called --- for example, would you prefer
> that start an e-mail with the salutation, "Hi Gao", "Hi Xiang", or "Hi
> Gao Xiang"?

Honestly, I think either way would be fine on this even in Chinese
speaking environment...

> 
> And if I don't know, and I guess wrong, please feel free to correct
> me, either privately, or publically on the e-mail list, if you think
> it would be helpful for more people to understand how you'd prefer to
> be called.

Nope, it's just a minor stuff though. I didn't tend to give any direct/
indirect opinion or hint on this. Sorry about that if some misleading :)

Thanks,
Gao Xiang

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 					- Ted
>