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Message-ID: <CALvZod5a39kNUW3uj4z0+eYi_yfWLPEZ1BKdzbA42=E5TeEgHQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Thu, 1 Apr 2021 12:21:01 -0700
From:   Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@...gle.com>
To:     Alistair Popple <apopple@...dia.com>,
        Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>
Cc:     Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...dia.com>,
        John Hubbard <jhubbard@...dia.com>,
        Linux MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>, nouveau@...ts.freedesktop.org,
        bskeggs@...hat.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        linux-doc@...r.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        kvm-ppc@...r.kernel.org, dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org,
        rcampbell@...dia.com,
        Jérôme Glisse <jglisse@...hat.com>,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>, daniel@...ll.ch,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 3/8] mm/rmap: Split try_to_munlock from try_to_unmap

CC: Hugh Dickins

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 9:37 PM Alistair Popple <apopple@...dia.com> wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, 31 March 2021 10:57:46 PM AEDT Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 03:15:47PM +1100, Alistair Popple wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, 31 March 2021 2:56:38 PM AEDT John Hubbard wrote:
> > > > On 3/30/21 3:56 PM, Alistair Popple wrote:
> > > > ...
> > > > >> +1 for renaming "munlock*" items to "mlock*", where applicable. good
> > > grief.
> > > > >
> > > > > At least the situation was weird enough to prompt further
> investigation :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Renaming to mlock* doesn't feel like the right solution to me either
> > > though. I
> > > > > am not sure if you saw me responding to myself earlier but I am
> thinking
> > > > > renaming try_to_munlock() -> page_mlocked() and try_to_munlock_one() -
> >
> > > > > page_mlock_one() might be better. Thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Quite confused by this naming idea. Because: try_to_munlock() returns
> > > > void, so a boolean-style name such as "page_mlocked()" is already not a
> > > > good fit.
> > > >
> > > > Even more important, though, is that try_to_munlock() is mlock-ing the
> > > > page, right? Is there some subtle point I'm missing? It really is doing
> > > > an mlock to the best of my knowledge here. Although the kerneldoc
> > > > comment for try_to_munlock() seems questionable too:
> > >
> > > It's mlocking the page if it turns out it still needs to be locked after
> > > unlocking it. But I don't think you're missing anything.
> >
> > It is really searching all VMA's to see if the VMA flag is set and if
> > any are found then it mlocks the page.
> >
> > But presenting this rountine in its simplified form raises lots of
> > questions:
> >
> >  - What locking is being used to read the VMA flag?
> >  - Why do we need to manipulate global struct page flags under the
> >    page table locks of a single VMA?
>
> I was wondering that and questioned it in an earlier version of this series. I
> have done some digging and the commit log for b87537d9e2fe ("mm: rmap use pte
> lock not mmap_sem to set PageMlocked") provides the original justification.
>
> It's fairly long so I won't quote it here but the summary seems to be that
> among other things the combination of page lock and ptl makes this safe. I
> have yet to verify if everything there still holds and is sensible, but the
> last paragraph certainly is :-)
>
> "Stopped short of separating try_to_munlock_one() from try_to_munmap_one()
> on this occasion, but that's probably the sensible next step - with a
> rename, given that try_to_munlock()'s business is to try to set Mlocked."
>
> >  - Why do we need to check for huge pages inside the VMA loop, not
> >    before going to the rmap? PageTransCompoundHead() is not sensitive to
> >    the PTEs. (and what happens if the huge page breaks up concurrently?)
> >  - Why do we clear the mlock bit then run around to try and set it?
>
> I don't have an answer for that as I'm not (yet) across all the mlock code
> paths, but I'm hoping this patch at least won't change anything.
>

It would be good to ask the person who has the most answers?

Hugh, the thread started at
https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20210326000805.2518-4-apopple@nvidia.com/