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Date:   Thu, 15 Apr 2021 10:49:18 +0800
From:   Liuxiangdong <liuxiangdong5@...wei.com>
To:     "Xu, Like" <like.xu@...el.com>
CC:     <andi@...stfloor.org>, "Fangyi (Eric)" <eric.fangyi@...wei.com>,
        Xiexiangyou <xiexiangyou@...wei.com>,
        <kan.liang@...ux.intel.com>, <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
        <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, <wei.w.wang@...el.com>,
        <x86@...nel.org>, Like Xu <like.xu@...ux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 01/16] perf/x86/intel: Add x86_pmu.pebs_vmx for Ice
 Lake Servers



On 2021/4/15 9:38, Xu, Like wrote:
> On 2021/4/14 22:49, Liuxiangdong wrote:
>> Hi Like,
>>
>> On 2021/4/9 16:46, Like Xu wrote:
>>> Hi Liuxiangdong,
>>>
>>> On 2021/4/9 16:33, Liuxiangdong (Aven, Cloud Infrastructure Service 
>>> Product Dept.) wrote:
>>>> Do you have any comments or ideas about it ?
>>>>
>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/606E5EF6.2060402@huawei.com/
>>>
>>> My expectation is that there may be many fewer PEBS samples
>>> on Skylake without any soft lockup.
>>>
>>> You may need to confirm the statement
>>>
>>> "All that matters is that the EPT pages don't get
>>> unmapped ever while PEBS is active"
>>>
>>> is true in the kernel level.
>>>
>>> Try "-overcommit mem-lock=on" for your qemu.
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, in fact, I don't quite understand
>> "My expectation is that there may be many fewer PEBS samples on 
>> Skylake without any soft lockup. "
>
> For testcase: perf record -e instructions:pp ./workload
>
> We can get 2242 samples on the ICX guest, but
> only 17 samples or less on the Skylake guest.
>
> In my testcase on Skylake, neither the host nor the guest triggered 
> the soft lock.
>

Thanks for your explanation!
Could you please show your complete qemu command and qemu version used 
on Skylake?
I hope I can test it again according to your qemu cmd and version.


>>
>> And, I have used "-overcommit mem-lock=on"  when soft lockup happens.
>
> I misunderstood the use of "mem-lock=on". It is not the same as the
> guest mem pin and I believe more kernel patches are needed.
>
>>
>>
>> Now, I have tried to configure 1G-hugepages for 2G-mem vm. Each of 
>> guest numa nodes has 1G mem.
>> When I use pebs(perf record -e cycles:pp) in guest, there are 
>> successful pebs samples just for a while and
>> then I cannot get pebs samples. Host doesn't soft lockup in this 
>> process.
>
> In the worst case, no samples are expected.
>
>>
>> Are there something wrong on skylake for we can only get a few 
>> samples? IRQ?  Or using hugepage is not effecitve?
>
> The few samples comes from hardware limitation.
> The Skylake doesn't have this "EPT-Friendly PEBS" capabilityand
> some PEBS records will be lost when used by guests.
>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2021/4/6 13:14, Xu, Like wrote:
>>>>> Hi Xiangdong,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2021/4/6 11:24, Liuxiangdong (Aven, Cloud Infrastructure 
>>>>> Service Product Dept.) wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,like.
>>>>>> Some questions about this new pebs patches set:
>>>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20210329054137.120994-2-like.xu@linux.intel.com/ 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The new hardware facility supporting guest PEBS is only available
>>>>>> on Intel Ice Lake Server platforms for now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, we have documented this "EPT-friendly PEBS" capability in the 
>>>>> SDM
>>>>> 18.3.10.1 Processor Event Based Sampling (PEBS) Facility
>>>>>
>>>>> And again, this patch set doesn't officially support guest PEBS on 
>>>>> the Skylake.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AFAIK, Icelake supports adaptive PEBS and extended PEBS which 
>>>>>> Skylake doesn't.
>>>>>> But we can still use IA32_PEBS_ENABLE MSR to indicate 
>>>>>> general-purpose counter in Skylake.
>>>>>
>>>>> For Skylake, only the PMC0-PMC3 are valid for PEBS and you may
>>>>> mask the other unsupported bits in the pmu->pebs_enable_mask.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there anything else that only Icelake supports in this patches 
>>>>>> set?
>>>>>
>>>>> The PDIR counter on the Ice Lake is the fixed counter 0
>>>>> while the PDIR counter on the Sky Lake is the gp counter 1.
>>>>>
>>>>> You may also expose x86_pmu.pebs_vmx for Skylake in the 1st patch.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Besides, we have tried this patches set in Icelake.  We can use 
>>>>>> pebs(eg: "perf record -e cycles:pp")
>>>>>> when guest is kernel-5.11, but can't when kernel-4.18. Is there a 
>>>>>> minimum guest kernel version requirement?
>>>>>
>>>>> The Ice Lake CPU model has been added since v5.4.
>>>>>
>>>>> You may double check whether the stable tree(s) code has
>>>>> INTEL_FAM6_ICELAKE in the arch/x86/include/asm/intel-family.h.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Xiangdong Liu
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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