linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH net-next v3 2/5] mm: add a signature in struct page

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date:   Mon, 19 Apr 2021 08:12:17 +0300
From:   Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@...aro.org>
To:     Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@...gle.com>
Cc:     Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@...hat.com>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
        Matteo Croce <mcroce@...ux.microsoft.com>,
        netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, Linux MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        Ayush Sawal <ayush.sawal@...lsio.com>,
        Vinay Kumar Yadav <vinay.yadav@...lsio.com>,
        Rohit Maheshwari <rohitm@...lsio.com>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
        Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@...tlin.com>,
        Marcin Wojtas <mw@...ihalf.com>,
        Russell King <linux@...linux.org.uk>,
        Mirko Lindner <mlindner@...vell.com>,
        Stephen Hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org>,
        Tariq Toukan <tariqt@...dia.com>,
        Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@...nel.org>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>,
        Boris Pismenny <borisp@...dia.com>,
        Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        "Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@...gle.com>,
        Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
        Michel Lespinasse <walken@...gle.com>,
        Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@...el.com>,
        Roman Gushchin <guro@...com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>,
        Peter Xu <peterx@...hat.com>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca>,
        Guoqing Jiang <guoqing.jiang@...ud.ionos.com>,
        Jonathan Lemon <jonathan.lemon@...il.com>,
        Alexander Lobakin <alobakin@...me>,
        Cong Wang <cong.wang@...edance.com>, wenxu <wenxu@...oud.cn>,
        Kevin Hao <haokexin@...il.com>,
        Aleksandr Nogikh <nogikh@...gle.com>,
        Jakub Sitnicki <jakub@...udflare.com>,
        Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>,
        Willem de Bruijn <willemb@...gle.com>,
        Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@...wei.com>,
        Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@...wei.com>,
        Guillaume Nault <gnault@...hat.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, linux-rdma@...r.kernel.org,
        bpf <bpf@...r.kernel.org>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
        David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>,
        Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@...nel.org>,
        Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@...dia.com>,
        Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 2/5] mm: add a signature in struct page

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 01:09:47PM -0700, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 12:42 PM Jesper Dangaard Brouer
> <brouer@...hat.com> wrote:
> >
> [...]
> > > >
> > > > Can this page_pool be used for TCP RX zerocopy? If yes then PageType
> > > > can not be used.
> > >
> > > Yes it can, since it's going to be used as your default allocator for
> > > payloads, which might end up on an SKB.
> >
> > I'm not sure we want or should "allow" page_pool be used for TCP RX
> > zerocopy.
> > For several reasons.
> >
> > (1) This implies mapping these pages page to userspace, which AFAIK
> > means using page->mapping and page->index members (right?).
> >
> 
> No, only page->_mapcount is used.
> 

I am not sure I like leaving out TCP RX zerocopy. Since we want driver to
adopt the recycling mechanism we should try preserving the current
functionality of the network stack.

The question is how does it work with the current drivers that already have an
internal page recycling mechanism.

> > (2) It feels wrong (security wise) to keep the DMA-mapping (for the
> > device) and also map this page into userspace.
> >
> 
> I think this is already the case i.e pages still DMA-mapped and also
> mapped into userspace.
> 
> > (3) The page_pool is optimized for refcnt==1 case, and AFAIK TCP-RX
> > zerocopy will bump the refcnt, which means the page_pool will not
> > recycle the page when it see the elevated refcnt (it will instead
> > release its DMA-mapping).
> 
> Yes this is right but the userspace might have already consumed and
> unmapped the page before the driver considers to recycle the page.

Same question here. I'll have a closer look in a few days and make sure we are
not breaking anything wrt zerocopy.

> 
> >
> > (4) I remember vaguely that this code path for (TCP RX zerocopy) uses
> > page->private for tricks.  And our patch [3/5] use page->private for
> > storing xdp_mem_info.
> >
> > IMHO when the SKB travel into this TCP RX zerocopy code path, we should
> > call page_pool_release_page() to release its DMA-mapping.
> >
> 
> I will let TCP RX zerocopy experts respond to this but from my high
> level code inspection, I didn't see page->private usage.

Shakeel are you aware of any 'easy' way I can have rx zerocopy running?


Thanks!
/Ilias