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Date:   Mon, 26 Apr 2021 13:01:10 +0000
From:   David Laight <David.Laight@...LAB.COM>
To:     "'Rafael J. Wysocki'" <rafael@...nel.org>,
        Oliver Neukum <oneukum@...e.com>
CC:     Rajat Jain <rajatja@...gle.com>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
        Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux PCI <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>,
        "open list:ULTRA-WIDEBAND (UWB) SUBSYSTEM:" 
        <linux-usb@...r.kernel.org>, "Bjorn Helgaas" <helgaas@...nel.org>,
        Rajat Jain <rajatxjain@...il.com>,
        Jesse Barnes <jsbarnes@...gle.com>,
        Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@...gle.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v2 2/2] pci: Support "removable" attribute for PCI devices

From: Rafael J. Wysocki
> Sent: 26 April 2021 12:49
> 
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 11:17 AM Oliver Neukum <oneukum@...e.com> wrote:
> >
> > Am Freitag, den 23.04.2021, 19:16 -0700 schrieb Rajat Jain:
> > > Export the already available info, to the userspace via the
> > > device core, so that userspace can implement whatever policies it
> > > wants to, for external removable devices.
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > is there a way to tell apart whether a device can undergo regular
> > surprise removal?
> 
> PCI devices located under a removable parent can undergo surprise
> removal.  The ones on a Thunderbolt chain too.
> 
> > Do we want that?
> 
> Do you mean surprise removal?  Yes, we do.

Always been true - think of cardbus (PCI pcmcia) cards with
PCI bridges to external PCI expansion chassis containing
additional PCI slots.
The cardbus card is hot removable.

	David

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