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Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 08:53:08 +0200
From: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>
To: Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan94@...il.com>
Cc: Vincent Donnefort <vincent.donnefort@....com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@...hat.com>,
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Benjamin Segall <bsegall@...gle.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>,
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Chunyan Zhang <zhang.lyra@...il.com>,
Ryan Y <xuewyan@...mail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/pelt: Add UTIL_AVG_UNCHANGED flag for last_enqueued_diff
On Fri, 7 May 2021 at 03:36, Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan94@...il.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 12:26 AM Vincent Donnefort
> <vincent.donnefort@....com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, May 06, 2021 at 08:46:08PM +0800, Xuewen Yan wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 8:28 PM Vincent Donnefort
> > > <vincent.donnefort@....com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, May 06, 2021 at 07:09:36PM +0800, Xuewen Yan wrote:
> > > > > From: Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan@...soc.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > The UTIL_AVG_UNCHANGED flag had been cleared when the task util changed.
> > > > > And the enqueued is equal to task_util with the flag, so it is better
> > > > > to add the UTIL_AVG_UNCHANGED flag for last_enqueued_diff.
> >
> > Could we change the description here a bit? I don't think this is accurately
> > explaning the issue. Would probably be interesting to mention that by not
> > setting the flag, which is the LSB, we add +1 to the diff. This is therefore
> > reducing slightly UTIL_EST_MARGIN.
>
> ok, If you agree with this patch, I'll change it in V2.
Although the impact is not significant , it's worth having an accurate
computation. So the patch makes sense to me. Please submit a v2
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > Fixes: b89997aa88f0b sched/pelt: Fix task util_est update filtering
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan@...soc.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > > kernel/sched/fair.c | 2 +-
> > > > > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > > > index e5e457fa9dc8..94d77b4fa601 100644
> > > > > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > > > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > > > @@ -3996,7 +3996,7 @@ static inline void util_est_update(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq,
> > > > > if (ue.enqueued & UTIL_AVG_UNCHANGED)
> > > > > return;
> > > > >
> > > > > - last_enqueued_diff = ue.enqueued;
> > > > > + last_enqueued_diff = (ue.enqueued | UTIL_AVG_UNCHANGED);
> > > > >
> > > > > /*
> > > > > * Reset EWMA on utilization increases, the moving average is used only
> > > > > --
> > > > > 2.29.0
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > We do indeed for the diff use the flag for the value updated and no flag for the
> > > > value before the update. However, last_enqueued_diff is only used for the margin
> > > > check which is an heuristic and is not an accurate value (~1%) and as we know
> > > The last_enqueued_diff is compared with the UTIL_EST_MARGIN which is
> > > "1024/100 = 10",
> > > and The LSB may cause ~10% error.
> >
> > I meant ~1% being the original margin. With the bit set, we would use 0.87% instead
> > of 0.97%.
>
> Because the within_margin() does not contain “=”, if the enqueued
> without the flag, the margin may be 0.97%(10/1024),
> with the flag, be 1.07%(11/1024) instead of 0.87% I think.
> >
> > > > we already loose the LSB in util_est, I'm not sure this is really necessary.
> > > I'm also not very sure, maybe the calculation will be more rigorous
> > > with the flag?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Vincent
> > > >
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