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Date:   Fri, 7 May 2021 15:20:50 -0300
From:   Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...dia.com>
To:     "Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@...el.com>
Cc:     Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@...aro.org>,
        Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@...ux.intel.com>,
        "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@...el.com>,
        Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@...hat.com>,
        "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@...el.com>,
        Auger Eric <eric.auger@...hat.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Joerg Roedel <joro@...tes.org>,
        Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@...ux.intel.com>,
        David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
        "iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org" <iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
        "cgroups@...r.kernel.org" <cgroups@...r.kernel.org>,
        Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>, Li Zefan <lizefan@...wei.com>,
        Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
        Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@...aro.com>,
        Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>, "Wu, Hao" <hao.wu@...el.com>,
        "Jiang, Dave" <dave.jiang@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 05/18] iommu/ioasid: Redefine IOASID set and
 allocation APIs

On Fri, May 07, 2021 at 11:14:58AM -0700, Raj, Ashok wrote:
> On Fri, May 07, 2021 at 02:20:51PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Thu, May 06, 2021 at 09:32:40AM -0700, Raj, Ashok wrote:
> > 
> > > For platforms that support ENQCMD, it is required to mandate PASIDs are
> > > global across the entire system. Maybe its better to call them gPASID for
> > > guest and hPASID for host. Short reason being gPASID->hPASID is a guest
> > > wide mapping for ENQCMD and not a per-RID based mapping. (We covered that
> > > in earlier responses)
> > 
> > I don't think it is actually ENQCMD that forces this, ENQCMD can use a
> > per-RID PASID in the translation table as well.
> 
> When using ENQCMD the PASID that needs to be sent on the wire is picked
> from an MSR setup by kernel. This is context switched along with the
> process. So each process has only 1 PASID that can go out when using
> ENQCMD. ENQCMD takes one mmio address specific to the acclerator and a
> source for the descriptor.

Oh. I forgot this also globally locked the PASID to a single
MSR. Sigh. That makes the whole mechanism useless for anything except
whole process SVA.

It also make it a general kernel problem and not just related to the
vIOMMU scenario.

> > I think at the uAPI level the callpaths that require allocating a
> > PASID from a group of RIDs should be explicit in their intention and
> > not implicitly rely on a certain allocator behavior.
> 
> The difficult part I see is, when one application establishes a path
> to one acclerator, we have no knowledge if its going to connect to a
> second, third or such. I don't see how this can work reasonably
> well. What if PASIDx is allocated for one, but the second RID its
> trying to attach already has this PASID allocated?

You mean like some kind of vIOMMU hot plug?

> > If you want to get a PASID that can be used with every RID on in your
> > /dev/ioasid then ask for that exactly.
> 
> Correct, but how does guest through vIOMMU driver communicate that intent so uAPI
> plumbing can do this? I mean architecturally via IOMMU interfaces? 

I would have to ask for a PASID that has the property it needs. You
are saying the property is even bigger than "usable on a group of
RIDs" but is actually "global for every RID and IOMMU in the system so
it can go into a MSR". Gross, but fine, ask for that explicitly when
allocating the PASID.

Jason

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