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Date:   Mon, 10 May 2021 17:56:05 +0200
From:   Juergen Gross <jgross@...e.com>
To:     Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan 
        <sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
        Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>,
        Tony Luck <tony.luck@...el.com>,
        Kirill Shutemov <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>,
        Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan <knsathya@...nel.org>,
        Raj Ashok <ashok.raj@...el.com>,
        Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 01/32] x86/paravirt: Introduce CONFIG_PARAVIRT_XL

On 10.05.21 17:52, Andi Kleen wrote:
> \
>>>> CONFIG_PARAVIRT_XL will be used by TDX that needs couple of paravirt
>>>> calls that were hidden under CONFIG_PARAVIRT_XXL, but the rest of the
>>>> config would be a bloat for TDX.
>>>
>>> Used how? Why is it bloat for TDX?
>>
>> Is there any major downside to move the halt related pvops functions
>> from CONFIG_PARAVIRT_XXL to CONFIG_PARAVIRT?
> 
> I think the main motivation is to get rid of all the page table related 
> hooks for modern configurations. These are the bulk of the annotations 
> and  cause bloat and worse code. Shadow page tables are really obscure 
> these days and very few people still need them and it's totally 
> reasonable to build even widely used distribution kernels without them. 
> On contrast most of the other hooks are comparatively few and also on 
> comparatively slow paths, so don't really matter too much.
> 
> I think it would be ok to have a CONFIG_PARAVIRT that does not have page 
> table support, and a separate config option for those (that could be 
> eventually deprecated).
> 
> But that would break existing .configs for those shadow stack users, 
> that's why I think Kirill did it the other way around.

No. We have PARAVIRT_XXL for Xen PV guests, and we have PARAVIRT for
other hypervisor's guests, supporting basically the TLB flush operations
and time related operations only. Adding the halt related operations to
PARAVIRT wouldn't break anything.


Juergen


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