linux-kernel - Re: [percpu] ace7e70901: aim9.sync_disk_rw.ops_per

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Message-ID: <YJnTYicu2TaVqVmi@google.com>
Date:   Tue, 11 May 2021 00:44:18 +0000
From:   Dennis Zhou <dennis@...nel.org>
To:     Roman Gushchin <guro@...com>
Cc:     Oliver Sang <oliver.sang@...el.com>,
        Pratik Sampat <psampat@...ux.ibm.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "lkp@...ts.01.org" <lkp@...ts.01.org>,
        "lkp@...el.com" <lkp@...el.com>,
        "ying.huang@...el.com" <ying.huang@...el.com>,
        "feng.tang@...el.com" <feng.tang@...el.com>,
        "zhengjun.xing@...el.com" <zhengjun.xing@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [percpu]  ace7e70901:  aim9.sync_disk_rw.ops_per_sec -2.3%
 regression

On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 05:34:38PM -0700, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> On Fri, May 07, 2021 at 07:08:03PM +0000, Dennis Zhou wrote:
> > On Fri, May 07, 2021 at 10:52:22AM -0700, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 07, 2021 at 11:06:06AM +0800, Oliver Sang wrote:
> > > > hi Roman,
> > > >  
> > > > On Thu, May 06, 2021 at 12:54:59AM +0000, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> > > > > Ping
> > > > 
> > > > sorry for late.
> > > > 
> > > > the new patch makes the performance a little better but still has
> > > > 1.9% regression comparing to
> > > > f183324133 ("percpu: implement partial chunk depopulation")
> > > 
> > > Hi Oliver!
> > > 
> > > Thank you for testing it!
> > > 
> > > Btw, can you, please, confirm that the regression is coming specifically
> > > from ace7e70901 ("percpu: use reclaim threshold instead of running for every page")?
> > > I do see *some* regression in my setup, but the data is very noisy, so I'm not sure
> > > I can confirm it.
> > > 
> > > Thanks!
> > 
> > Thanks Oliver and Roman. If this is the case, I'll drop the final patch
> > and just merge up to f183324133 ("percpu: implement partial chunk
> > depopulation") into for-next as this is v5.14 anyway.
> 
> I doubt it's a good idea. I reran the test with some debug added and it looks
> like it doesn't  trigger any depopulation at all. Everything else looked sane
> too.
> 

Well that's awkward...

> Dropping a reasonable patch doing a good thing without any understandinding how
> it affects (or even can affect in theory) some benchmark sounds like a bad idea.
> We'll never learn this. It could be that the regression is caused my some
> tiny alignment difference or something like this, so any other change can
> trigger it too (I can be totally wrong here, but I don't have any better
> explanation either).
> 

So I'm not 100% thrilled with the final patch anyway. Particularly the
lock dancing I'd rather figure something out a little cleaner. I'm going
to take some time later this week and sort it out. If I can't think of
anthing better I'll just reapply the final patch.

I've currently merged everything up into the last patch for-5.14. Should
at least give us some very preliminary testing.

> Btw, do we have any similar tests?
> 
> Thanks!

Thanks,
Dennis