linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] cpufreq: intel_pstate: Force intel_pstate to load when HWP disabled in firmware

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Message-ID: <d150564ba71180cad5cf68e7b4c2821dcf5982aa.camel@suse.cz>
Date:   Thu, 13 May 2021 14:10:11 +0200
From:   Giovanni Gherdovich <ggherdovich@...e.cz>
To:     Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@...ux.intel.com>,
        "Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
        Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@...aro.org>
Cc:     Len Brown <lenb@...nel.org>, linux-pm@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cpufreq: intel_pstate: Force intel_pstate to load when
 HWP disabled in firmware

On Thu, 2021-05-13 at 04:03 -0700, Srinivas Pandruvada wrote:
> On Thu, 2021-05-13 at 12:10 +0200, Giovanni Gherdovich wrote:
> > [...]
> > An alternative approach to register intel_pstate in the case I'm
> > describing
> > would be to add ICELAKE_X (and every CPU model after that, forever?)
> > to the
> > list intel_pstate_cpu_ids.
>
> This is not nice, but unlike client server CPUs don't get released
> often. There is couple of years in between.

True.

> > [...]
> > The wording "hwp_broken_firmware" deliberately has a negative
> > connotation (the
> > intended meaning is: "firmware is broken, regarding HWP"), carrying
> > the
> > not-so-subtle message "OEM folks, please don't do this". My
> > understanding is
> > that the preferred way to disable HWP is with intel_pstate=no_hwp,
> > the
> > firmware should stay out of it.
>
> For me "broken" means that Intel has some bug, which is not the case,
> even if the intention is to carry message to OEM.
> 
> no_hwp is for disabling HWP even if the HWP is supported.
> 
> The problem is that if we override the supported CPU list using some
> kernel command line, some users may crash the system running on some
> old hardware where some of the MSRs we rely are not present. We don't
> read MSR in failsafe mode, so they will fault. We are checking some
> MSRs but not all.

Fair enough.

> Also what will be default
> (struct pstate_funcs *)id->driver_data if the cpu model doesn't match.

Whoops... You're totally right, the patch I sent is broken! "id" must be a
valid pstate_funcs* pointer, or some other default methods must be provided.

And besides...

> I think better to add CPU model instead. We did that for SKX on user
> requests.

... I agree. Let's just add ICX to the list of explicitly supported CPUs.
I'll send a new patch doing that, please discard this one.


Giovanni