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Date:   Tue, 18 May 2021 17:06:52 +0200
From:   Maxime Ripard <maxime@...no.tech>
To:     Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@...roducible-builds.org>
Cc:     Salvatore Bonaccorso <carnil@...ian.org>,
        Jernej Škrabec <jernej.skrabec@...l.net>,
        "B.R. Oake" <broake@...lfence.com>, devicetree@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-sunxi@...glegroups.com,
        Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
        Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@...nel.org>,
        linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ARM: dts: sun8i: h3: orangepi-plus: Fix Ethernet PHY mode

On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 01:18:44PM -0700, Vagrant Cascadian wrote:
> On 2021-05-16, Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 09:51:17AM +0100, Jernej Škrabec wrote:
> >> Let me first explain that it was oversight on my side not noticing initials in 
> >> your SoB tag. But since the issue was raised by Maxime, I didn't follow up.
> >> 
> >> Dne sobota, 13. februar 2021 ob 07:51:32 CET je B.R. Oake napisal(a):
> >> > On Wed Feb 10 at 16:01:18 CET 2021, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> >> > > Unfortunately we can't take this patch as is, this needs to be your real
> >> > > name, see:
> >> > > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/submitting-patches.html#de
> >> > > veloper-s-certificate-of-origin-1-1
> >> > Dear Maxime,
> >> > 
> >> > Thank you very much for considering my contribution and for all your
> >> > work on supporting sunxi-based hardware; I appreciate it.
> >> > 
> >> > Thank you for referring me to the Developer's Certificate of Origin, but
> >> > I had already read it before submitting (I had to do so in order to know
> >> > what I was saying by "Signed-off-by:") and I do certify what it says.
> >> > 
> >> > Looking through recent entries in the commit log of the mainline kernel,
> >> > I see several patches from authors such as:
> >> > 
> >> >   H.J. Lu <hjl.tools@...il.com>
> >> >   B K Karthik <karthik.bk2000@...e.com>
> >> >   JC Kuo <jckuo@...dia.com>
> >> >   EJ Hsu <ejh@...dia.com>
> >> >   LH Lin <lh.lin@...iatek.com>
> >> >   KP Singh <kpsingh@...nel.org>
> >> >   Karthik B S <karthik.b.s@...el.com>
> >> >   Shreyas NC <shreyas.nc@...el.com>
> >> >   Vandana BN <bnvandana@...il.com>
> >> > 
> >> > so I believe names of this form are in fact acceptable, even if the
> >> > style might seem a little old-fashioned to some.
> >> 
> >> Speaking generally, not only for this case, prior art arguments rarely hold, 
> >> because:
> >> - it might be oversight,
> >> - it might be a bad practice, which should not be followed in new 
> >> contributions,
> >> - different maintainers have different point of view on same thing,
> >> - maintainer wants to adapt new practice or steer subsystem in new direction
> >> 
> >> > 
> >> > I would like to add that I have met many people with names such as C.J.,
> >> > A A, TC, MG, etc. That is what everybody calls them and it would be
> >> > natural for them to sign themselves that way. Some of them might want to
> >> > contribute to Linux some day, and I think it would be a great shame and
> >> > a loss to all of us if they were discouraged from doing so by reading
> >> > our conversation in the archives and concluding that any contribution
> >> > from them, however small, would be summarily refused simply because of
> >> > their name. Please could you ensure that does not happen?
> >> 
> >> The link you posted says following:
> >> "using your real name (sorry, no pseudonyms or anonymous contributions.)"
> >> 
> >> I believe that real name means no initials, no matter what people are 
> >> accustomed to. From my point of view, CJ is pseudonym derived from real name.
> >> 
> >> This is not the first time that fix of SoB tag was requested, you can find such 
> >> requests in ML archives.
> 
> I'm sure this isn't the first time this sort of thing has been brought
> up on this subject, but I feel obliged to mention:
> 
>   https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/
> 
> This seems to be blocked on culturally dependent perception of what
> looks like a "real name" as opposed to any technical grounds.
> 
> What is the goal of the "real name" in Signed-off-by actually trying to
> achieve?

https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/submitting-patches.html#developer-s-certificate-of-origin-1-1

I'm not the one making the rules, sorry

Maxime

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