linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3 0/6] RTL8231 GPIO expander support

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Message-ID: <CACRpkda+m5mOzMJ8KcPmojFGWkUpCrbmY0ySPTVx72RtWwf89A@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Tue, 1 Jun 2021 11:59:10 +0200
From:   Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@...aro.org>
To:     Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@...il.com>
Cc:     Hans de Goede <hdegoede@...hat.com>,
        Sander Vanheule <sander@...nheule.net>,
        Michael Walle <michael@...le.cc>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>,
        Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
        Lee Jones <lee.jones@...aro.org>,
        Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        "Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
        Bartosz Golaszewski <bgolaszewski@...libre.com>,
        Linux LED Subsystem <linux-leds@...r.kernel.org>,
        devicetree <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
        "open list:GPIO SUBSYSTEM" <linux-gpio@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/6] RTL8231 GPIO expander support

On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 8:16 PM Andy Shevchenko
<andy.shevchenko@...il.com> wrote:
> On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 7:51 PM Hans de Goede <hdegoede@...hat.com> wrote:

> > Regmap allows you to mark certain ranges as volatile, so that they will not
> > be cached, these GPIO registers containing the current pin value seems like
> > a good candidate for this. This is also necessary to make reading the GPIO
> > work without getting back a stale, cached value.
>
> After all it seems a simple missed proper register configuration in
> the driver for regmap.
> Oh, as usual something easy-to-solve requires tons of time to find it. :-)

This is actually quite interesting.

In the discussion around adding Rust support for the Linux kernel
what I came to realize was that the memory safety that Rust adds is
similar in application and ambition to what e.g. regmap-mmio provides.

One aspect of writing kernel drivers in Rust is to always have
something like regmap between your code and the hardware to
strictly control the memory access pattern.

After all regmap is "memory safety implemented in C".

What we see in cases like this is that not only does that make
things more strict and controlled (after all we have regmap for
a reason) but also makes it possible to generate a whole new
set of bugs by doing an error in how you specify the memory
semantics. As all other paradigms, memory safety thinking
implies that never specify anything wrong.

Just regarding all registers/memory cells in a register page
as default volatile (which is what we do a lot of the time)
has its upsides: bugs like this doesn't happen.

(Just some sidetracking...)

Yours,
Linus Walleij