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Message-ID: <2d1ad075-bec6-bfb9-ce71-ed873795e973@redhat.com>
Date:   Sat, 5 Jun 2021 08:22:27 +0200
From:   Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>
To:     Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...dia.com>
Cc:     Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@...hat.com>,
        "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@...el.com>,
        Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@...aro.org>,
        "Jiang, Dave" <dave.jiang@...el.com>,
        "Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@...el.com>,
        "kvm@...r.kernel.org" <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
        Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org" <iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
        David Gibson <david@...son.dropbear.id.au>,
        Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@...dia.com>,
        David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
        Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] /dev/ioasid uAPI proposal

On 04/06/21 19:22, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>   4) The KVM interface is the very simple enable/disable WBINVD.
>      Possessing a FD that can do IOMMU_EXECUTE_WBINVD is required
>      to enable WBINVD at KVM.

The KVM interface is the same kvm-vfio device that exists already.  The 
userspace API does not need to change at all: adding one VFIO file 
descriptor with WBINVD enabled to the kvm-vfio device lets the VM use 
WBINVD functionality (see kvm_vfio_update_coherency).

Alternatively you can add a KVM_DEV_IOASID_{ADD,DEL} pair of ioctls. 
But it seems useless complication compared to just using what we have 
now, at least while VMs only use IOASIDs via VFIO.

Either way, there should be no policy attached to the add/delete 
operations.  KVM users want to add the VFIO (or IOASID) file descriptors 
to the device independent of WBINVD.  If userspace wants/needs to apply 
its own policy on whether to enable WBINVD or not, they can do it on the 
VFIO/IOASID side:

>  1) When the device is attached to the IOASID via VFIO_ATTACH_IOASID
>     it communicates its no-snoop configuration:
>      - 0 enable, allow WBINVD
>      - 1 automatic disable, block WBINVD if the platform
>        IOMMU can police it (what we do today)
>      - 2 force disable, do not allow BINVD ever

Though, like Alex, it's also not clear to me whether force-disable is 
useful.  Instead userspace can query the IOMMU or the device to ensure 
it's not enabled.

Paolo

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