linux-kernel - Re: [RFC] /dev/ioasid uAPI proposal

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Message-ID: <YL7Elf3KwRarNfLx@yekko>
Date:   Tue, 8 Jun 2021 11:15:01 +1000
From:   David Gibson <david@...son.dropbear.id.au>
To:     Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...dia.com>
Cc:     "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" <lkml@...ux.net>,
        "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@...el.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Joerg Roedel <joro@...tes.org>,
        Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@...ux.intel.com>,
        David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
        "iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org" <iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
        "kvm@...r.kernel.org" <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
        "Alex Williamson (alex.williamson@...hat.com)" 
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        Eric Auger <eric.auger@...hat.com>,
        Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        "Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@...el.com>,
        "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@...el.com>, "Wu, Hao" <hao.wu@...el.com>,
        "Jiang, Dave" <dave.jiang@...el.com>,
        Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@...ux.intel.com>,
        Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@...aro.org>,
        Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@...dia.com>,
        Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] /dev/ioasid uAPI proposal

On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 09:30:54AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 12:44:28PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote:
> > On 02.06.21 19:24, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > >> If I understand this correctly, /dev/ioasid is a kind of "common
> > supplier"
> > >> to other APIs / devices. Why can't the fd be acquired by the
> > >> consumer APIs (eg. kvm, vfio, etc) ?
> > >
> > > /dev/ioasid would be similar to /dev/vfio, and everything already
> > > deals with exposing /dev/vfio and /dev/vfio/N together
> > >
> > > I don't see it as a problem, just more work.
> > 
> > One of the problems I'm seeing is in container environments: when
> > passing in an vfio device, we now also need to pass in /dev/ioasid,
> > thus increasing the complexity in container setup (or orchestration).
> 
> Containers already needed to do this today. Container orchestration is
> hard.

Right to use VFIO a container already needs both /dev/vfio and one or
more /dev/vfio/NNN group devices.

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