lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wjiBXCZBxLiCG5hxpd0vMkMjiocenponWygG5SCG6DXNw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Thu, 10 Jun 2021 15:04:33 -0700
From:   Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:     "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
Cc:     linux-arch <linux-arch@...r.kernel.org>,
        Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
        Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Richard Henderson <rth@...ddle.net>,
        Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@...assic.park.msu.ru>,
        Matt Turner <mattst88@...il.com>,
        alpha <linux-alpha@...r.kernel.org>,
        Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>,
        linux-m68k <linux-m68k@...ts.linux-m68k.org>,
        Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...nel.org>,
        Ley Foon Tan <ley.foon.tan@...el.com>,
        Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>,
        Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@...yn.them.org>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
Subject: Re: Kernel stack read with PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT and io_uring threads

On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 1:58 PM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@...ssion.com> wrote:
>
> The problem is sometimes we read all of the registers from
> a context where they are not all saved.

Ouch. Yes. And this is really painful because none of the *normal*
architectures do this, so it gets absolutely no coverage.

> I think at this point we need to say that the architectures that have a
> do this need to be fixed to at least call do_exit and the kernel
> function in create_io_thread with the deeper stack.

Yeah. We traditionally have that requirement for fork() and friends
too (vfork/clone), so adding exit and io_uring to do so seems like the
most straightforward thing.

But I really wish we had some way to test and trigger this so that we
wouldn't get caught on this before. Something in task_pt_regs() that
catches "this doesn't actually work" and does a WARN_ON_ONCE() on the
affected architectures?

               Linus

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ