linux-kernel - Re: Maintainers / Kernel Summit 2021 planning kick-off

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date:   Fri, 11 Jun 2021 11:51:48 +0200
From:   Willy Tarreau <w@....eu>
To:     Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...nel.org>
Cc:     Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@...hat.com>,
        Shuah Khan <skhan@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@...asonboard.com>,
        Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@...uxfoundation.org>,
        "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" <lkml@...ux.net>,
        David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>,
        James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senpartnership.com>,
        Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>, Christoph Lameter <cl@...two.de>,
        "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>, Jiri Kosina <jikos@...nel.org>,
        ksummit@...ts.linux.dev, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-block@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-mm@...ck.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-arch@...r.kernel.org, linux-api@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Maintainers / Kernel Summit 2021 planning kick-off

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 11:13:07AM +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > The only thing is that it can be quite intimidating for
> > local participants who are too shy of standing up in front of a
> > microphone and everyone else.
> 
> If someone is shy, he/she could simply type the question as a
> remote participant would do.

+1

> This should work fine for a normal speech, but for BoFs and the
> usual "round table" discussions we have at Kernel Maintainers,
> this may not work well for local participants.

Indeed but for this one the problem is the same with those who are
not much at ease with oral english. It's difficult to insert oneself
into a discussion flow between multiple people speaking fast and
naturally understanding what they're saying without having to think.
So this situation is not new, and actually this ability to interact
quickly is what makes such events profitable to a group, even if not
everyone can participate at the same level.

In such a case, it's the moderator's job to observe that some people
want to say something and probably need a second or two of silence and
concentration first. And this works both for local and remote ones.

Willy