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Message-ID: <CALOAHbAfF7q8NyKpR+TCF14ZMhjHkrQG9W7wnA_j5Sog36OOiQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Mon, 14 Jun 2021 23:59:56 +0800
From:   Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@...il.com>
To:     Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>
Cc:     Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@...hat.com>,
        Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@....com>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        Ben Segall <bsegall@...gle.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>,
        Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@...hat.com>,
        linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] sched: do active load balance on the new idle cpu

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 10:21 PM Vincent Guittot
<vincent.guittot@...aro.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 at 12:23, Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@...il.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 8:37 PM Vincent Guittot
> > <vincent.guittot@...aro.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 14:26, Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@...il.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > We monitored our latency-sensitive RT tasks are randomly preempted by the
> > > > kthreads migration/n, which means to migrate tasks on CPUn to other new
> > > > idle CPU. The logical as follows,
> > > >
> > > >   new idle CPU                          CPU n
> > > >   (no task to run)                      (busy running)
> > > >   wakeup migration/n                    (busy running)
> > > >   (idle)                                migraion/n preempts current task
> > > >   run the migrated task                 (busy running)
> > >
> > > migration thread is only used when we want to migrate the currently
> > > running task of the source cpu.
> > > This doesn't seem to be your case as it's a RT thread that is
> > > currently running so the migration thread should not be woken up as we
> > > don't need it to migrate a runnable but not running cfs thread from
> > > coin to new idle CPU
> > >
> > > Do you have more details about the UC. Could it be a race between new
> > > idle load balance starting migration thread to pull the cfs running
> > > thread and the RT thread waking up and preempting cfs task before
> > > migration threads which then preempt your RT threads
> > >
> >
> > Hi Vincent,
> >
> > When I analyze it on my test server, I find the race really exists. For example,
> >
> > sensing_node-2511 [007] d... 945.351566: sched_switch:
> > prev_comm=sensing_node prev_pid=2511 prev_prio=98 prev_state=S ==>
> > next_comm=cat next_pid=2686 next_prio=120
> > cat-2686 [007] d... 945.351569: sched_switch: prev_comm=cat
> > prev_pid=2686 prev_prio=120 prev_state=R+ ==> next_comm=sensing_node
> > next_pid=2512 next_prio=98
> > sensing_node-2516 [004] dn.. 945.351571: sched_wakeup:
> > comm=migration/7 pid=47 prio=0 target_cpu=007
> > sensing_node-2512 [007] d... 945.351572: sched_switch:
> > prev_comm=sensing_node prev_pid=2512 prev_prio=98 prev_state=R ==>
> > next_comm=migration/7 next_pid=47 next_prio=0
> > sensing_node-2516 [004] d... 945.351572: sched_switch:
> > prev_comm=sensing_node prev_pid=2516 prev_prio=98 prev_state=S ==>
> > next_comm=sensing_node next_pid=2502 next_prio=98
> > migration/7-47 [007] d... 945.351580: sched_switch:
> > prev_comm=migration/7 prev_pid=47 prev_prio=0 prev_state=S ==>
> > next_comm=sensing_node next_pid=2512 next_prio=98
> > sensing_node-2502 [004] d... 945.351605: sched_switch:
> > prev_comm=sensing_node prev_pid=2502 prev_prio=98 prev_state=S ==>
> > next_comm=cat next_pid=2686 next_prio=120
> >
> > When CPU4 is waking migration/7, the CFS thread 'cat' is running on
> > CPU7, but then 'cat' is preempted by a RT task 'sensing_node', and
> > then the migration/7 preempts the RT task.
>
> ok the race happens between :
>     if (need_active_balance(&env)) {
> and
>         raw_spin_rq_lock_irqsave(busiest, flags);
>

Right.

> >
> > What about below patch to improve the race ? It can't avoid the race,
> > but it could reduce the race.
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > index 3248e24a90b0..0e8d31e17dc7 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > @@ -9794,6 +9794,20 @@ static int load_balance(int this_cpu, struct rq *this_rq,
> >                                 goto out_one_pinned;
> >                         }
> >
> > +                       /*
> > +                        * There may be a race between new idle load
> > balance starting
>
> s/new idle load/load/
>
> In fact, the same can happen during all kind of  load balance
>
>
> > +                        * migration thread to pull the cfs running
> > thread and the RT
> > +                        * thread waking up and preempting cfs task
> > before migration
> > +                        * threads which then preempt the RT thread.
> > +                        * We'd better do the last minute check before starting
> > +                        * migration thread to avoid preempting
> > latency-sensitive RT thread.
> > +                        */
> > +                       if (dl_task(busiest->curr) || rt_task(busiest->curr)) {
>
> if(busiest->curr->sched_class != &fair_sched_class)
>

Sure

> Reviewing your proposal reminded me a similar discussion with Valentin:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAKfTPtBygNcVewbb0GQOP5xxO96am3YeTZNP5dK9BxKHJJAL-g@mail.gmail.com/
>

Thanks for your information.
Seems that's a similar issue.

>
> > +                               raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&busiest->lock,
> > +                                                          flags);
> > +                               goto out_one_pinned;
>
>                                goto out;
> is enough because the the task is not pinned
>

Sure.

>
> > +                       }
> > +
> >                         /* Record that we found at least one task that
> > could run on this_cpu */
> >                         env.flags &= ~LBF_ALL_PINNED;
>
> Your test should be moved after clearing the LBF_ALL_PINNED flag
>

Sure.

I will update the patch.

>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > As the new idle CPU is going to be idle, we'd better move the migration
> > > > work on it instead of burdening the busy CPU. After this change, the
> > > > logic is,
> > > >  new idle CPU                           CPU n
> > > >  (no task to run)                       (busy running)
> > > >  migrate task from CPU n                (busy running)
> > > >  run the migrated task                  (busy running)
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@...il.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  kernel/sched/fair.c | 17 +++++------------
> > > >  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > > index 3248e24a90b0..3e8b98b982ff 100644
> > > > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > > @@ -9807,13 +9807,11 @@ static int load_balance(int this_cpu, struct rq *this_rq,
> > > >                                 busiest->push_cpu = this_cpu;
> > > >                                 active_balance = 1;
> > > >                         }
> > > > -                       raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&busiest->lock, flags);
> > > >
> > > > -                       if (active_balance) {
> > > > -                               stop_one_cpu_nowait(cpu_of(busiest),
> > > > -                                       active_load_balance_cpu_stop, busiest,
> > > > -                                       &busiest->active_balance_work);
> > > > -                       }
> > > > +                       if (active_balance)
> > > > +                               active_load_balance_cpu_stop(busiest);
> > >
> > > this doesn't make sense because we reach this point if we want to
> > > migrate the current running task of the busiest cpu and in order to do
> > > this we need the preempt this current running thread
> > >
> > > > +
> > > > +                       raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&busiest->lock, flags);
> > > >                 }
> > > >         } else {
> > > >                 sd->nr_balance_failed = 0;
> > > > @@ -9923,7 +9921,6 @@ static int active_load_balance_cpu_stop(void *data)
> > > >         struct task_struct *p = NULL;
> > > >         struct rq_flags rf;
> > > >
> > > > -       rq_lock_irq(busiest_rq, &rf);
> > > >         /*
> > > >          * Between queueing the stop-work and running it is a hole in which
> > > >          * CPUs can become inactive. We should not move tasks from or to
> > > > @@ -9933,8 +9930,7 @@ static int active_load_balance_cpu_stop(void *data)
> > > >                 goto out_unlock;
> > > >
> > > >         /* Make sure the requested CPU hasn't gone down in the meantime: */
> > > > -       if (unlikely(busiest_cpu != smp_processor_id() ||
> > > > -                    !busiest_rq->active_balance))
> > > > +       if (unlikely(!busiest_rq->active_balance))
> > > >                 goto out_unlock;
> > > >
> > > >         /* Is there any task to move? */
> > > > @@ -9981,13 +9977,10 @@ static int active_load_balance_cpu_stop(void *data)
> > > >         rcu_read_unlock();
> > > >  out_unlock:
> > > >         busiest_rq->active_balance = 0;
> > > > -       rq_unlock(busiest_rq, &rf);
> > > >
> > > >         if (p)
> > > >                 attach_one_task(target_rq, p);
> > > >
> > > > -       local_irq_enable();
> > > > -
> > > >         return 0;
> > > >  }
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > 2.17.1
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks
> > Yafang



-- 
Thanks
Yafang

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