lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <20210618153735.GA37688@otc-nc-03>
Date:   Fri, 18 Jun 2021 08:37:35 -0700
From:   "Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@...el.com>
To:     Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...dia.com>
Cc:     Joerg Roedel <joro@...tes.org>,
        "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@...el.com>,
        Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@...hat.com>,
        Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@...aro.org>,
        David Gibson <david@...son.dropbear.id.au>,
        Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>,
        "parav@...lanox.com" <parav@...lanox.com>,
        "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" <lkml@...ux.net>,
        Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
        Shenming Lu <lushenming@...wei.com>,
        Eric Auger <eric.auger@...hat.com>,
        Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@...el.com>, "Wu, Hao" <hao.wu@...el.com>,
        "Jiang, Dave" <dave.jiang@...el.com>,
        Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@...ux.intel.com>,
        Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@...dia.com>,
        Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>,
        "kvm@...r.kernel.org" <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
        "iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org" <iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
        David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@...ux.intel.com>,
        Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@...el.com>
Subject: Re: Plan for /dev/ioasid RFC v2

On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 12:15:06PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 03:47:51PM +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> > Hi Kevin,
> > 
> > On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 07:31:03AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > > Now let's talk about the new IOMMU behavior:
> > > 
> > > -   A device is blocked from doing DMA to any resource outside of
> > >     its group when it's probed by the IOMMU driver. This could be a
> > >     special state w/o attaching to any domain, or a new special domain
> > >     type which differentiates it from existing domain types (identity, 
> > >     dma, or unmanged). Actually existing code already includes a
> > >     IOMMU_DOMAIN_BLOCKED type but nobody uses it.
> > 
> > There is a reason for the default domain to exist: Devices which require
> > RMRR mappings to be present. You can't just block all DMA from devices
> > until a driver takes over, we put much effort into making sure there is
> > not even a small window in time where RMRR regions (unity mapped regions
> > on AMD) are not mapped.
> 
> Yes, I think the DMA blocking can only start around/after a VFIO type
> driver has probed() and bound to a device in the group, not much
> different from today.

Does this mean when a device has a required "RMRR" that requires a unity
mapping we block assigning those devices to guests? I remember we had some
restriction but there was a need to go around it at some point in time.

- Either we disallow assigning devices with RMRR
- Break that unity map when the device is probed and after which any RMRR
  access from device will fault.

Cheers,
Ashok

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ