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Date:   Thu, 24 Jun 2021 13:20:28 +0200
From:   Hans-Gert Dahmen <hans-gert.dahmen@...u.ne>
To:     "gregkh@...uxfoundation.org" <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Cc:     David Laight <David.Laight@...lab.com>,
        "akpm@...ux-foundation.org" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "philipp.deppenwiese@...u.ne" <philipp.deppenwiese@...u.ne>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] firmware: export x86_64 platform flash bios region via
 sysfs


On 23.06.21 14:40, gregkh@...uxfoundation.org wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 02:17:54PM +0200, Hans-Gert Dahmen wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Yes. The window is part of the DMI interface and the south bridge or PCH
>> converts the bus cycles to SPI reads. It is because this region contains the
>> reset vector address of your CPU and the very first instruction it executes
>> after a reset when the internal setup is done will actually be loaded from
>> the serial SPI bus. It is AFAIK part of AMD's original 64-bit specification.
> The point is that you will never be able to do this for all devices.
> You should ONLY be allowed to have this module bind to the hardware that
> you KNOW it will work with.
> 
> So please work off of a DMI table, or some such hardware description,
> instead of just blindly enabling it for all systems.

I was referring to the DMI/QPI/PCI interface that connects the 
ICH/PCH/south bridge to the CPU. I have gone through all datasheets of 
intel ICH and PCH and they state that the address range from 0xff000000 
through 0xffffffff is a fixed mapping that cannot be changed (no BAR) 
except for the original ICH (dating back to 1999) where the window is 
only 8MB. The original ICH is for 32-bit systems only so all 64-bit 
Intel systems that exist have this feature. I have talked to somebody 
who works with future Intel hardware and the person indicated that it is 
not likely to change.

This is why I made the module depend on X86_64. I still have to do the 
same complete research for AMD systems which is a little harder to do, 
so I am proposing to check if the root complex has Intel's vendor ID and 
only load the module on 64-bit Intel systems until I can confirm the 
same behavior for all 64-bit AMD systems. Then I could check if the root 
complex is Intel or AMD. Would that suffice as "some such hardware 
description"?

Here are my public sources:

ICH0 Datasheet Chapter 6.3 and Table 6-5
https://www.tautec-electronics.de/Datenblaetter/Schaltkreise/FW82801AA.pdf

ICH2 Datasheet Chapter 6.4 and Table 6-4
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/doc/datasheet/82801ba-i-o-controller-hub-2-82801bam-i-o-controller-hub-2-mobile-datasheet.pdf

ICH3 Datasheet Chapter 6.4 and Table 6-5
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/doc/datasheet/82801ca-io-controller-hub-3-datasheet.pdf

ICH4 Datasheet Chapter 6.4 and Table 6-5
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/datasheets/82801db-io-controller-hub-4-datasheet.pdf

ICH5 Datasheet Chapter 6.4 and Table 133
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/doc/datasheet/82801eb-82801er-io-controller-hub-datasheet.pdf

ICH6 Datasheet Chapter 6.4 and Table 6-4
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/doc/datasheet/io-controller-hub-6-datasheet.pdf

ICH7 Datasheet Chapter 6.4 and Table 6-4
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/doc/datasheet/i-o-controller-hub-7-datasheet.pdf

ICH8 Datasheet Chapter 6.4 and Table 102
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/datasheets/io-controller-hub-8-datasheet.pdf

ICH9 Datasheet Chapter 9.4 and Table 9-4
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/doc/datasheet/io-controller-hub-9-datasheet.pdf

ICH10 Datasheet Chapter 9.4 and Table 9-4
https://theswissbay.ch/pdf/Datasheets/Intel/io-controller-hub-10-family-datasheet.pdf

PCH Intel 5 Series Datasheet Chapter 9.4 and Table 9-4
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/datasheets/5-chipset-3400-chipset-datasheet.pdf

PCH Intel 6 Series Datasheet Chapter 9.4 and Table 9-4
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/datasheets/6-chipset-c200-chipset-datasheet.pdf

PCH Intel 7 Series Datasheet Chapter 9.4 and Table 9-4
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/datasheets/7-series-chipset-pch-datasheet.pdf

PCH Intel 8 Series Datasheet Chapter 9.4 and Table 9-4
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/datasheets/8-series-chipset-pch-datasheet.pdf

PCH Intel 9 Series Datasheet Chapter 9.4 and Table 9-4
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/datasheets/9-series-chipset-pch-datasheet.pdf

PCH Intel 100 Series Datasheet Vol 1 Chapter 4.3 and Table 4-4
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/datasheets/100-series-chipset-datasheet-vol-1.pdf

PCH Intel 200 Series Datasheet Vol 1 Chapter 4.3 and Table 4-4
https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/612/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-1-1391746.pdf

PCH Intel 300 Series Datasheet Vol 1 Chapter 4.3 and Table 4-4
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/technical-specifications/300-series-chipset-on-package-pch-datasheet-vol-1.pdf

PCH Intel 400 Series Datasheet Vol 1 Chapter 4.2 and Table 8
https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/B1TDsSyARKS.pdf

Hans-Gert Dahmen

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