linux-kernel - Re: [RFC 00/10] perf: Add build id parsing fault detection/fix

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Message-ID: <YNi08CN8VE16d0n2@krava>
Date:   Sun, 27 Jun 2021 19:27:12 +0200
From:   Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>
To:     Michael Petlan <mpetlan@...hat.com>
Cc:     Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>,
        Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
        Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>,
        lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
        Riccardo Mancini <rickyman7@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/10] perf: Add build id parsing fault detection/fix

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 01:44:43PM +0200, Michael Petlan wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2021, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> > Hi Jiri,
> > 
> > Thanks for your work!
> > 
> > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 2:19 PM Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 03:14:04PM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > > > Em Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 10:47:54AM -0700, Ian Rogers escreveu:
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 10:39 AM Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
> > > > > <acme@...nel.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Em Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 05:39:08PM +0200, Jiri Olsa escreveu:
> > > > > > > hi,
> > > > > > > this *RFC* patchset adds support to detect faults during
> > > > > > > mmap2's build id parsing and a way to fix such maps in
> > > > > > > generated perf.data.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It adds support to record build id faults count for session
> > > > > > > and store it in perf.data and perf inject support to find
> > > > > > > these maps and reads build ids for them in user space.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's probably best explained by the workflow:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   Record data with --buildid-mmap option:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     # perf record --buildid-mmap ...
> > > > > > >     ...
> > > > > > >     [ perf record: Woken up 1 times to write data ]
> > > > > > >     [ perf record: Failed to parse 4 build ids]
> > > > > > >     [ perf record: Captured and wrote 0.008 MB perf.data ]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   Check if there's any build id fault reported:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     # perf report --header-only
> > > > > > >     ...
> > > > > > >     # build id mmap stats: FAULTS 4, LOST 0, NOT FIXED
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   There is, check the stats:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     # perf report --stat
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     Aggregated stats:
> > > > > > >              TOTAL events:        104
> > > > > > >                       ....
> > > > > > >            BUILD_ID fails:          4  (14.3%)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   Yep, let's fix it:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     # perf inject --buildid-mmap2 -i perf.data -o perf-fixed.data
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can we make it possible to automate this with --fixup-buildids or a
> > > > > > perfconfig 'record' knob?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This would entail requesting that build-ids that _fail_ be sent to the
> > > > > > side-band thread we have in 'perf record', this way we wouldn't have to
> > > > > > traverse the whole perf.data file, be it with 'perf-record' at the end
> > > > > > of a session with faulty build ids, or in a similar fashion using 'perf
> > > > > > inject' as you suggest.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I even think that we can have all these modes and let the user to decide
> > > > > > how important is this for them and how convenient they want the whole
> > > > > > process to be.
> > >
> > > right, that might be good to decide first.. because as I said,
> > > I never hit faulted build id, so it probably needs the special
> > > setup you guys are using.. could you try on your setup and check
> > > how many faulted build ids you see?
> > 
> > Did you check data mmaps?  It might be easy to get faults
> > from data files and we don't know if it's an ELF or not
> > before reading the ELF header in the first page.
> 
> Hi. Long ago, I have noticed samples pointing to purely data files,
> such as if the program execution was sampled just in the middle of
> them. However, these files couldn't certainly contain any executable
> code... It was quite hard to reproduce this.
> 
> Maybe what Namhyung says might have been a culprit for it? Just an
> idea...

yea, that sounds bad.. I guess you can no longer reproduce?

thanks,
jirka