lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:   Thu, 08 Jul 2021 16:41:09 +0200
From:   Florian Weimer <fweimer@...hat.com>
To:     Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>
Cc:     libc-alpha@...rceware.org, linux-api@...r.kernel.org,
        x86@...nel.org, linux-arch@...r.kernel.org,
        "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@...il.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: x86 CPU features detection for applications (and AMX)

* Dave Hansen:

> That's kinda my whole point.
>
> These *MUST* be curated to be meaningful.  Right now, someone just
> dumped a set of CPUID bits into the documentation.
>
> The interface really needs *three* modes:
>
> 1. Yes, the CPU/OS supports this feature
> 2. No, the CPU/OS doesn't support this feature
> 3. Hell if I know, never heard of this feature
> 	
> The interface really conflates 2 and 3.  To me, that makes it
> fundamentally flawed.

That's an interesing point.

3 looks potentially more useful than the feature/usable distinction to
me.

The recent RTM change suggests that there are more states, but we
probably can't do much about such soft-disable changes.

Thanks,
Florian

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ