Message-ID: <fef963b1-cb28-9e75-f2b0-6744a2520e54@redhat.com>
Date:   Fri, 9 Jul 2021 12:41:03 +0200
From:   David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>
To:     Michel Lespinasse <michel@...pinasse.org>,
        Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        Linux-Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Cc:     Laurent Dufour <ldufour@...ux.ibm.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
        Rik van Riel <riel@...riel.com>,
        Paul McKenney <paulmck@...nel.org>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com>,
        Joel Fernandes <joelaf@...gle.com>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/29] Speculative page faults (anon vmas only)

On 17.06.21 15:46, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 30.04.21 21:52, Michel Lespinasse wrote:
>> This patchset is my take on speculative page faults (spf).
>> It builds on ideas that have been previously proposed by Laurent Dufour,
>> Peter Zijlstra and others before. While Laurent's previous proposal
>> was rejected around the time of LSF/MM 2019, I am hoping we can revisit
>> this now based on what I think is a simpler and more bisectable approach,
>> much improved scaling numbers in the anonymous vma case, and the Android
>> use case that has since emerged. I will expand on these points towards
>> the end of this message.
>>
>> The patch series applies on top of linux v5.12;
>> a git tree is also available:
>> git fetch https://github.com/lespinasse/linux.git v5.12-spf-anon
>>
>> I believe these patches should be considered for merging.
>> My github also has a v5.12-spf branch which extends this mechanism
>> for handling file mapped vmas too; however I believe these are less
>> mature and I am not submitting them for inclusion at this point.
>>
>>
>> Compared to the previous (RFC) proposal, I have split out / left out
>> the file VMA handling parts, fixed some config specific build issues,
>> added a few more comments and modified the speculative fault handling
>> to use rcu_read_lock() rather than local_irq_disable() in the
>> MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE case.
>>
>>
>> Classical page fault processing takes the mmap read lock in order to
>> prevent races with mmap writers. In contrast, speculative fault
>> processing does not take the mmap read lock, and instead verifies,
>> when the results of the page fault are about to get committed and
>> become visible to other threads, that no mmap writers have been
>> running concurrently with the page fault. If the check fails,
>> speculative updates do not get committed and the fault is retried
>> in the usual, non-speculative way (with the mmap read lock held).
>>
>> The concurrency check is implemented using a per-mm mmap sequence count.
>> The counter is incremented at the beginning and end of each mmap write
>> operation. If the counter is initially observed to have an even value,
>> and has the same value later on, the observer can deduce that no mmap
>> writers have been running concurrently with it between those two times.
>> This is similar to a seqlock, except that readers never spin on the
>> counter value (they would instead revert to taking the mmap read lock),
>> and writers are allowed to sleep. One benefit of this approach is that
>> it requires no writer side changes, just some hooks in the mmap write
>> lock APIs that writers already use.
>>
>> The first step of a speculative page fault is to look up the vma and
>> read its contents (currently by making a copy of the vma, though in
>> principle it would be sufficient to only read the vma attributes that
>> are used in page faults). The mmap sequence count is used to verify
>> that there were no mmap writers concurrent to the lookup and copy steps.
>> Note that walking rbtrees while there may potentially be concurrent
>> writers is not an entirely new idea in linux, as latched rbtrees
>> are already doing this. This is safe as long as the lookup is
>> followed by a sequence check to verify that concurrency did not
>> actually occur (and abort the speculative fault if it did).
>>
>> The next step is to walk down the existing page table tree to find the
>> current pte entry. This is done with interrupts disabled to avoid
>> races with munmap(). Again, not an entirely new idea, as this repeats
>> a pattern already present in fast GUP. Similar precautions are also
>> taken when taking the page table lock.
> 
> Hi Michel,
> 
> I just started working on a project to reclaim page tables inside
> running processes that are no longer needed (for example, empty after
> madvise(DISCARD)). Long story short, there are scenarios where we want
> to scan for such page tables asynchronously to free up memory (which can
> be quite significant in some use cases).
> 
> Now that I (mostly) understood the complex locking, I'm looking for
> other mm features that might be "problematic" in that regard and require
> properly planning to get right (or let them run mutually exclusive).
> 
> As I essentially rip out page tables from the page table hierarchy to
> free them (in the simplest case within a VMA to get started), I
> certainly need the mmap lock in read right now to scan the page table
> hierarchy, and the mmap lock in write when actually removing a page
> table. This is similar handling as khugepagd when collapsing a THP and
> removing a page table. Of course, we could use any kind of
> synchronization mechanism (-> rcu) to make sure nobody is using a page
> table anymore before actually freeing it.
> 
> 1. I now wonder how your code actually protects against e.g., khugepaged
> and how it could protect against page table reclaim. Will we be using
> RCU while walking the page tables? That would make life easier.
> 
> 2. You mention "interrupts disabled to avoid races with munmap()". Can
> you elaborate how that is supposed to work? Shouldn't we rather be using
> RCU than manually disabling interrupts? What is the rationale?

Answering my questions, I assume this works just like gup_fast 
lockless_pages_from_mm(), whereby we rely on an IPI when clearing the 
TLB before actually freeing the page (-> mmu gather).

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb

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