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Message-ID: <20210714191855.GJ4719@sirena.org.uk>
Date:   Wed, 14 Jul 2021 20:18:55 +0100
From:   Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>
To:     Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@...asonboard.com>
Cc:     Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@...il.com>,
        Daniel Scally <djrscally@...il.com>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Platform Driver <platform-driver-x86@...r.kernel.org>,
        Hans de Goede <hdegoede@...hat.com>,
        Mark Gross <mgross@...ux.intel.com>,
        Maximilian Luz <luzmaximilian@...il.com>,
        Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@...il.com>,
        kieran.bingham@...asonboard.com,
        Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@...ux.intel.com>,
        Cezary Rojewski <cezary.rojewski@...el.com>,
        Liam Girdwood <liam.r.girdwood@...ux.intel.com>,
        Jie Yang <yang.jie@...ux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] Add software node support to regulator framework

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 08:41:27PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 06:28:46PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 08:18:13PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:

> > > It's only one data point, but we're seeing adoption of the ACPI
> > > DT-in-DSD for camera. It's still not pretty of course.

> > By non-Linux system vendors?

> For Windows-based machines, yes. It's fairly new, and the information I
> have is that those machines may ship DSDT containing both Windows-style
> (read: crap) data and Linux-style data for the same nodes. My fear is
> that only the former will be properly tested and the latter will thus be
> incorrect. The future will tell (I'm as usual very hopeful).

Adding the Intel audio people - it'd be good if we could get some
similar stuff started for the audio things.  Sadly in these sorts of
cases AIUI the Windows thing is broadly to match DMI data and supply
platform data so it's more a case of just not having essential
information in firmware, a bad format would be better TBH (assuming it's
accurate which also requires loads of quirks...).

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