Message-ID: <3cea-61003580-1-23f95f80@24125827>
Date:   Tue, 27 Jul 2021 17:34:06 +0100
From:   "Gustavo Padovan" <gustavo.padovan@...labora.com>
To:     kernelci-members@...ups.io
Cc:     "kernelci@...ups.io" <kernelci@...ups.io>,
        automated-testing@...ts.yoctoproject.org,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "kernelci-tsc@...ups.io" <kernelci-tsc@...ups.io>
Subject: Re: [kernelci-members] KernelCI working group: 
 Web Dashboard

Hi Greg,
 
On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 12:58 -03, "Greg KH" <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org> wrote: 
 
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 04:54:46PM +0100, Guillaume Tucker wrote:
> > Last year's KernelCI Community Survey[1] showed the importance of
> > having a good web dashboard.  About 70% of respondents would use
> > one if it provided the information they needed efficiently.
> > While other things are arguably even more important, such as
> > testing patches from mailing lists, replying to stable reviews
> > and sending email reports directly to contributors in a "natural"
> > workflow, the web dashboard has been a sticking point for a
> > while.
> > 
> > There have been several attempts at solving this problem, using
> > Elastic Stack and Grafana among other things, but there isn't a
> > single framework able to directly provide an off-the-shelf
> > solution to the community's needs.  In fact, the first issue is
> > the lack of understanding of these needs: who wants to use the
> > web dashboard, and how?  Then, how does one translate those needs
> > into a user interface?  Doing this requires skills that engineers
> > who regularly contribute to KernelCI typically don't have.  As
> > such, a dedicated working group is being created in order to fill
> > this gap.
> > 
> > The aim is to coordinate efforts and try to follow best practices
> > to make steady progress and avoid repeating the same mistakes.
> > Most likely, we will need some help from proper web developers
> > who aren't part of the usual KernelCI community.  This may be
> > facilitated by the KernelCI LF project budget if approved by the
> > governing board.
> > 
> > In order to get started, we would need to have maybe 3 to 5
> > people available to focus on this.  It doesn't necessarily mean a
> > lot of hours spent but actions to be carried out on a daily or
> > weekly basis.  So far we have Gustavo Padovan as our new KernelCI
> > Project Manager and a few people have expressed interest but we
> > still need formal confirmation.
> > 
> > 
> > Here's a GitHub project dedicated to the new web dashboard:
> > 
> >   https://github.com/orgs/kernelci/projects/4
> > 
> > I've created a couple of issues to get started about user
> > stories, and some initial milestones as a basic skeleton:
> > 
> >   https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/milestones
> > 
> > 
> > This is ultimately a community-driven effort to address the needs
> > of the kernel community.  Please share any thoughts you may have
> > on this, whether you want to add some user stories, share some
> > expertise, be officially in the working group or take part in
> > this effort in any other way.
> 
> How do we "join" the working group?  I'm willing to help out from the
> "user who will use this a lot and complain about things that do not
> work well" point of view :)

Congratulations! You are now part of the working group. :) For now, anyone that is interested can step up, and maybe in a few weeks we can formalize with those who wants to take on the journey together with us in this working group.

Based on the replies to this thread I can put together an initial agenda and follow up with the potential times for a kick-off meeting.

Regards,

Gustavo

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