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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 11:37:30 +0000
From: "Winiarska, Iwona" <iwona.winiarska@...el.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/14] docs: hwmon: Document PECI drivers
On Tue, 2021-07-27 at 22:58 +0000, Zev Weiss wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 05:04:46PM CDT, Iwona Winiarska wrote:
> > From: Jae Hyun Yoo <jae.hyun.yoo@...ux.intel.com>
> >
> > Add documentation for peci-cputemp driver that provides DTS thermal
> > readings for CPU packages and CPU cores and peci-dimmtemp driver that
> > provides DTS thermal readings for DIMMs.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Jae Hyun Yoo <jae.hyun.yoo@...ux.intel.com>
> > Co-developed-by: Iwona Winiarska <iwona.winiarska@...el.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Iwona Winiarska <iwona.winiarska@...el.com>
> > Reviewed-by: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@...ux.intel.com>
> > ---
> > Documentation/hwmon/index.rst | 2 +
> > Documentation/hwmon/peci-cputemp.rst | 93 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Documentation/hwmon/peci-dimmtemp.rst | 58 +++++++++++++++++
> > MAINTAINERS | 2 +
> > 4 files changed, 155 insertions(+)
> > create mode 100644 Documentation/hwmon/peci-cputemp.rst
> > create mode 100644 Documentation/hwmon/peci-dimmtemp.rst
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/hwmon/index.rst b/Documentation/hwmon/index.rst
> > index bc01601ea81a..cc76b5b3f791 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/hwmon/index.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/hwmon/index.rst
> > @@ -154,6 +154,8 @@ Hardware Monitoring Kernel Drivers
> > pcf8591
> > pim4328
> > pm6764tr
> > + peci-cputemp
> > + peci-dimmtemp
> > pmbus
> > powr1220
> > pxe1610
> > diff --git a/Documentation/hwmon/peci-cputemp.rst
> > b/Documentation/hwmon/peci-cputemp.rst
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 000000000000..d3a218ba810a
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/Documentation/hwmon/peci-cputemp.rst
> > @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@
> > +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-only
> > +
> > +Kernel driver peci-cputemp
> > +==========================
> > +
> > +Supported chips:
> > + One of Intel server CPUs listed below which is connected to a PECI
> > bus.
> > + * Intel Xeon E5/E7 v3 server processors
> > + Intel Xeon E5-14xx v3 family
> > + Intel Xeon E5-24xx v3 family
> > + Intel Xeon E5-16xx v3 family
> > + Intel Xeon E5-26xx v3 family
> > + Intel Xeon E5-46xx v3 family
> > + Intel Xeon E7-48xx v3 family
> > + Intel Xeon E7-88xx v3 family
> > + * Intel Xeon E5/E7 v4 server processors
> > + Intel Xeon E5-16xx v4 family
> > + Intel Xeon E5-26xx v4 family
> > + Intel Xeon E5-46xx v4 family
> > + Intel Xeon E7-48xx v4 family
> > + Intel Xeon E7-88xx v4 family
> > + * Intel Xeon Scalable server processors
> > + Intel Xeon D family
> > + Intel Xeon Bronze family
> > + Intel Xeon Silver family
> > + Intel Xeon Gold family
> > + Intel Xeon Platinum family
> > +
> > + Datasheet: Available from http://www.intel.com/design/literature.htm
> > +
> > +Author: Jae Hyun Yoo <jae.hyun.yoo@...ux.intel.com>
> > +
> > +Description
> > +-----------
> > +
> > +This driver implements a generic PECI hwmon feature which provides Digital
> > +Thermal Sensor (DTS) thermal readings of the CPU package and CPU cores that
> > are
> > +accessible via the processor PECI interface.
> > +
> > +All temperature values are given in millidegree Celsius and will be
> > measurable
> > +only when the target CPU is powered on.
> > +
> > +Sysfs interface
> > +-------------------
> > +
> > +=======================
> > =======================================================
> > +temp1_label "Die"
> > +temp1_input Provides current die temperature of the CPU package.
> > +temp1_max Provides thermal control temperature of the CPU
> > package
> > + which is also known as Tcontrol.
> > +temp1_crit Provides shutdown temperature of the CPU package
> > which
> > + is also known as the maximum processor junction
> > + temperature, Tjmax or Tprochot.
> > +temp1_crit_hyst Provides the hysteresis value from Tcontrol
> > to Tjmax of
> > + the CPU package.
> > +
> > +temp2_label "DTS"
> > +temp2_input Provides current DTS temperature of the CPU package.
>
> Would this be a good place to note the slightly counter-intuitive nature
> of DTS readings? i.e. add something along the lines of "The DTS sensor
> produces a delta relative to Tjmax, so negative values are normal and
> values approaching zero are hot." (In my experience people who aren't
> already familiar with it tend to think something's wrong when a CPU
> temperature reading shows -50C.)
I believe that what you're referring to is a result of "GetTemp", and we're
using it to calculate "Die" sensor values (temp1).
The sensor value is absolute - we don't expose "raw" thermal sensor value
(delta) anywhere.
DTS sensor is exposing temperature value scaled to fit DTS 2.0 thermal profile:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/xeon/scalable/xeon-scalable-thermal-guide.html
(section 5.2.3.2)
Similar to "Die" sensor - it's also exposed in absolute form.
I'll try to change description to avoid confusion.
>
> > +temp2_max Provides thermal control temperature of the CPU
> > package
> > + which is also known as Tcontrol.
> > +temp2_crit Provides shutdown temperature of the CPU package which
> > + is also known as the maximum processor junction
> > + temperature, Tjmax or Tprochot.
> > +temp2_crit_hyst Provides the hysteresis value from Tcontrol to
> > Tjmax of
> > + the CPU package.
> > +
> > +temp3_label "Tcontrol"
> > +temp3_input Provides current Tcontrol temperature of the CPU
> > + package which is also known as Fan Temperature target.
> > + Indicates the relative value from thermal monitor trip
> > + temperature at which fans should be engaged.
> > +temp3_crit Provides Tcontrol critical value of the CPU package
> > + which is same to Tjmax.
> > +
> > +temp4_label "Tthrottle"
> > +temp4_input Provides current Tthrottle temperature of the CPU
> > + package. Used for throttling temperature. If this
> > value
> > + is allowed and lower than Tjmax - the throttle will
> > + occur and reported at lower than Tjmax.
> > +
> > +temp5_label "Tjmax"
> > +temp5_input Provides the maximum junction temperature, Tjmax of
> > the
> > + CPU package.
> > +
> > +temp[6-N]_label Provides string "Core X", where X is resolved
> > core
> > + number.
> > +temp[6-N]_input Provides current temperature of each core.
> > +temp[6-N]_max Provides thermal control temperature of the core.
> > +temp[6-N]_crit Provides shutdown temperature of the core.
> > +temp[6-N]_crit_hyst Provides the hysteresis value from Tcontrol to Tjmax
> > of
> > + the core.
>
> I only see *_label and *_input for the per-core temperature sensors, no
> *_max, *_crit, or *_crit_hyst.
You're right - this should be removed from documentation.
>
> > +
> > +=======================
> > =======================================================
> > diff --git a/Documentation/hwmon/peci-dimmtemp.rst b/Documentation/hwmon/peci-
> > dimmtemp.rst
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 000000000000..1778d9317e43
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/Documentation/hwmon/peci-dimmtemp.rst
> > @@ -0,0 +1,58 @@
> > +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> > +
> > +Kernel driver peci-dimmtemp
> > +===========================
> > +
> > +Supported chips:
> > + One of Intel server CPUs listed below which is connected to a PECI
> > bus.
> > + * Intel Xeon E5/E7 v3 server processors
> > + Intel Xeon E5-14xx v3 family
> > + Intel Xeon E5-24xx v3 family
> > + Intel Xeon E5-16xx v3 family
> > + Intel Xeon E5-26xx v3 family
> > + Intel Xeon E5-46xx v3 family
> > + Intel Xeon E7-48xx v3 family
> > + Intel Xeon E7-88xx v3 family
> > + * Intel Xeon E5/E7 v4 server processors
> > + Intel Xeon E5-16xx v4 family
> > + Intel Xeon E5-26xx v4 family
> > + Intel Xeon E5-46xx v4 family
> > + Intel Xeon E7-48xx v4 family
> > + Intel Xeon E7-88xx v4 family
> > + * Intel Xeon Scalable server processors
> > + Intel Xeon D family
> > + Intel Xeon Bronze family
> > + Intel Xeon Silver family
> > + Intel Xeon Gold family
> > + Intel Xeon Platinum family
> > +
> > + Datasheet: Available from http://www.intel.com/design/literature.htm
> > +
> > +Author: Jae Hyun Yoo <jae.hyun.yoo@...ux.intel.com>
> > +
> > +Description
> > +-----------
> > +
> > +This driver implements a generic PECI hwmon feature which provides Digital
> > +Thermal Sensor (DTS) thermal readings of DIMM components that are accessible
> > +via the processor PECI interface.
>
> I had thought "DTS" referred to a fairly specific sensor in the CPU; is
> the same term also used for DIMM temp sensors or is the mention of it
> here a copy/paste error?
Yeah - it should be "Temperature Sensor on DIMM".
Thanks
-Iwona
>
> > +
> > +All temperature values are given in millidegree Celsius and will be
> > measurable
> > +only when the target CPU is powered on.
> > +
> > +Sysfs interface
> > +-------------------
> > +
> > +=======================
> > =======================================================
> > +
> > +temp[N]_label Provides string "DIMM CI", where C is DIMM channel and
> > + I is DIMM index of the populated DIMM.
> > +temp[N]_input Provides current temperature of the populated DIMM.
> > +temp[N]_max Provides thermal control temperature of the DIMM.
> > +temp[N]_crit Provides shutdown temperature of the DIMM.
> > +
> > +=======================
> > =======================================================
> > +
> > +Note:
> > + DIMM temperature attributes will appear when the client CPU's BIOS
> > + completes memory training and testing.
> > diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
> > index 35ba9e3646bd..d16da127bbdc 100644
> > --- a/MAINTAINERS
> > +++ b/MAINTAINERS
> > @@ -14509,6 +14509,8 @@ M: Iwona Winiarska <iwona.winiarska@...el.com>
> > R: Jae Hyun Yoo <jae.hyun.yoo@...ux.intel.com>
> > L: linux-hwmon@...r.kernel.org
> > S: Supported
> > +F: Documentation/hwmon/peci-cputemp.rst
> > +F: Documentation/hwmon/peci-dimmtemp.rst
> > F: drivers/hwmon/peci/
> >
> > PECI SUBSYSTEM
> > --
> > 2.31.1
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