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Date:   Tue, 10 Aug 2021 20:49:14 +0800
From:   Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>
To:     Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@....com>
Cc:     Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, rcu@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-rt-users@...r.kernel.org,
        Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
        Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@...hat.com>,
        Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@...utronix.de>,
        "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>,
        Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@...nel.org>,
        Josh Triplett <josh@...htriplett.org>,
        Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>,
        Davidlohr Bueso <dave@...olabs.net>,
        Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@...il.com>,
        Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>,
        Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@....com>,
        Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@....com>,
        Steven Price <steven.price@....com>,
        Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/4] sched: Introduce is_pcpu_safe()

On Sun, Aug 08, 2021 at 05:15:20PM +0100, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> On 07/08/21 03:42, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > On Sat, 2021-08-07 at 01:58 +0100, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> >>
> >> +static inline bool is_pcpu_safe(void)
> >
> > Nit: seems odd to avoid spelling it out to save two characters, percpu
> > is word like, rolls off the ole tongue better than p-c-p-u.
> >
> >       -Mike
> 
> True. A quick grep says both versions are used, though "percpu" wins by
> about a factor of 2. I'll tweak that for a v3.

I wonder why is_percpu_safe() is the correct name. The safety of
accesses to percpu variables means two things to me:

a)	The thread cannot migrate to other CPU in the middle of
	accessing a percpu variable, in other words, the following
	cannot happen:

	{ percpu variable X is 0 on CPU 0 and 2 on CPU 1
	CPU 0				CPU 1
	========			=========
	<in thread A>
	__this_cpu_inc(X);
	  tmp = X; // tmp is 0
	  <preempted>
	  <migrate to CPU 1>
	  				// continue __this_cpu_inc(X);
					X = tmp + 1; // CPU 0 miss this
						     // increment (this
						     // may be OK), and
						     // CPU 1's X got
						     // corrupted.

b)	The accesses to a percpu variable are exclusive, i.e. no
	interrupt or preemption can happen in the middle of accessing,
	in other words, the following cannot happen:

	{ percpu variable X is 0 on CPU 0 }
	CPU 0
	========
	<in thread A>
	__this_cpu_inc(X);
	  tmp = X; // tmp is 0
	  <preempted>
	  <in other thread>
	  this_cpu_inc(X); // X is 1 afterwards.
	  <back to thread A>
	  X = tmp + 1; // X is 1, and we have a race condition.

And the is_p{er}cpu_safe() only detects the first, and it doesn't mean
totally safe for percpu accesses.

Maybe we can implement a migratable()? Although not sure it's a English
word.

Regards,
Boqun

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