Message-ID: <CAKmqyKPF3T_Sx+hL=4OSamLdjy=0fwmrTrVeb-GY0Ja9M=mi+Q@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Tue, 17 Aug 2021 19:08:36 +1000
From:   Alistair Francis <alistair23@...il.com>
To:     Marek Vasut <marex@...x.de>
Cc:     Fabio Estevam <festevam@...il.com>,
        Shawn Guo <shawnguo@...nel.org>,
        Sascha Hauer <kernel@...gutronix.de>,
        dl-linux-imx <linux-imx@....com>, b.zolnierkie@...sung.com,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Alistair Francis <alistair@...stair23.me>,
        Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>
Subject: Re: Revert "video: fbdev: mxsfb: Remove driver"

On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 5:55 PM Marek Vasut <marex@...x.de> wrote:
>
> On 8/16/21 9:34 AM, Alistair Francis wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 10:31 PM Marek Vasut <marex@...x.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 8/15/21 2:16 PM, Alistair Francis wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> Commit f225f1393f034 "video: fbdev: mxsfb: Remove driver" removed the
> >>> mxsfb fbdev driver.
> >>>
> >>> I am now working on getting mainline Linux running on the reMarkable 2
> >>> eInk reader [1]. Unfortunately the rM2 doesn't use the standard EPD
> >>> controller on the i.MX SoC, but instead uses the LCD controller.
> >>>
> >>> eInk panels are complex to control and require writing temperature
> >>> dependent waveforms. As these waveforms are proprietary [2] the rM
> >>> team runs closed source software called SWTCON in userspace to control
> >>> the panel [3].
> >>>
> >>> This closed source software expects the fbdev mxsfb driver and it
> >>> doesn't work with the DRM mxsfb driver (at least not that I can get it
> >>> to).
> >>>
> >>> The NXP fork of Linux also re-adds the fbdev driver [4], so they also
> >>> see some uses for it.
> >>>
> >>> I was wondering if the community would be open to re-adding the fbdev
> >>> mxsfb driver to mainline? It could be re-added with a different
> >>> dt-binding so that it is not used by default and only enabled for
> >>> boards when required (like for the rM2).
> >>>
> >>> 1: https://remarkable.com/store/remarkable-2
> >>> 2: https://goodereader.com/blog/e-paper/e-ink-waveforms-are-a-closely-guarded-secret
> >>> 3: https://remarkablewiki.com/tech/rm2_framebuffer
> >>> 4: https://source.codeaurora.org/external/imx/linux-imx/log/drivers/video/fbdev/mxsfb.c?h=lf-5.10.35-2.0.0
> >>
> >> +CC Sam.
> >>
> >> What sort of special thing does your proprietary userspace do that
> >> cannot be added to the DRM driver or the fbdev emulation (if needed) ?
> >
> > It's hard to tell. When using the DRM driver I get cryptic errors
> > about the frame buffer not being available.
>
> Do you have fbdev emulation enabled ? Does /dev/fbX exist ?

I do and /dev/fb0 exists

>
> What sort of messages do you get and from where ?

This is the error I get:

xochitl[252]: Error writing variable information: Invalid argument...

xochitl is the proprietary userspace code. I don't really have a good
idea of what that error would mean.

I also see this:

Framebuffer has wrong id: "mxcfb"

>
> You could run strace on the application to see how it communicates with
> the old driver via the ioctl interface and compare it with the fbdev
> emulation on the new driver, maybe there is some odd ioctl which is not
> emulated.

I had a quick look at this.

xochitl does a lot more than just controls the display, it interacts
with lots of other hardware and strace produces a lot of logs. I also
don't see the error when manually starting it, only at boot (but it
still doesn't work).

A quick run with

strace -f xochitcl

and I don't even see an access to /dev/fb0, so I'm not sure where the
accesses are coming from.

Alistair

>
> There is also NXP 5.10.35 fork, so you could try picking the fbdev
> driver from there and add printks/trace_printks/etc. into both that and
> the fbdev emulation code, to see whether how either is called and what
> is failing/missing in the emulation.
>
> > It's difficult to know
> > what is going on as I don't have access to any of the source. I
> > suspect the userspace code could be updated to use the DRM driver, but
> > we would need the reMarkable devs to do that.
> >
> > There is some effort to re-implement the proprietary user space swtcon
> > (https://github.com/timower/rM2-stuff#swtcon), but it seems to have
> > stalled. It wouldn't be impossible to get swtcon to work with the DRM
> > driver, but it would require a very large amount of reverse
> > engineering, that probably will never happen.
> >
> > I wanted to see what the thoughts were on re-adding the fbdev mxsfb
> > driver. The commit message just says that because there is a DRM
> > driver we no longer need the fbdev one, but here is a case for the
> > fbdev driver. I was thinking that continuing to support the fbdev
> > mxsfb driver wouldn't be too much of a maintenance burden (but that's
> > obviously up to you). The NXP tree also seems to think the fbdev
> > driver is worth keeping around.
>
> I don't think the NXP tree is a particularly good example of best
> practice, they don't use the mxsfb in the first place, they wrote their
> own DRM driver for the LCDIF IP, and they also keep the fbdev driver
> around, so yes, they have three drivers for the same IP in different
> state of decay and with different problems, instead of one driver that
> has all the functionality and fixes. Sigh ...
>
> I cannot decide on the fbdev thing, that's I think up to Sam. However,
> my suggestion would be to find out what is missing in the fbdev
> emulation and possibly fill that in, so we will have only one driver to
> support all the functionality.

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