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Message-ID: <YR+Rc9HC6OqlEq4I@dhcp22.suse.cz>
Date:   Fri, 20 Aug 2021 13:26:43 +0200
From:   Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>
To:     yongw.pur@...il.com
Cc:     tj@...nel.org, corbet@....net, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
        vdavydov.dev@...il.com, tglx@...utronix.de, peterz@...radead.org,
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        wang.yong12@....com.cn, cgroups@...r.kernel.org,
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        linux-mm@...ck.org, yang.yang29@....com.cn,
        wangyong <wang.yong@....com.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: Add configuration to control whether vmpressure
 notifier is enabled

On Thu 19-08-21 16:53:39, yongw.pur@...il.com wrote:
> From: wangyong <wang.yong@....com.cn>
> 
> Inspired by PSI features, vmpressure inotifier function should
> also be configured to decide whether it is used, because it is an
> independent feature which notifies the user of memory pressure.

Yes, it is an independent feature indeed but what is the actual reason
to put a more configuration space here. Config options are not free both
from the user experience POV as well as the code maintenance. Why do we
need to disable this feature. Who can benefit from such a setup?

> So we add configuration to control whether vmpressure notifier is
> enabled, and provide a boot parameter to use vmpressure notifier
> flexibly.

Flexibility is nice but not free as mentioned above.

> Use Christoph Lamenter’s pagefault tool
> (https://lkml.org/lkml/2006/8/29/294) for comparative testing.
> Test with 5.14.0-rc5-next-20210813 on x86_64 4G Ram
> To ensure that the vmpressure function is executed, we enable zram
> and let the program occupy memory so that some memory is swapped out
> 
> unpatched:
> Gb	Rep	Thr	CLine	User(s)	System(s) Wall(s) flt/cpu/s	fault/wsec
> 2	1	1	1	0.1	0.97	1.13	485490.062	463533.34
> 2	1	1	1	0.11	0.96	1.12	483086.072	465309.495
> 2	1	1	1	0.1	0.95	1.11	496687.098	469887.643
> 2	1	1	1	0.09	0.97	1.11	489711.434	468402.102
> 2	1	1	1	0.13	0.94	1.12	484159.415	466080.941
> average				0.106	0.958	1.118	487826.8162	466642.7042
> 
> patched and CONFIG_MEMCG_VMPRESSURE is not set:
> Gb	Rep	Thr	CLine	User(s)	System(s) Wall(s) flt/cpu/s	fault/wsec
> 2	1	1	1	0.1	0.96	1.1	490942.682	473125.98
> 2	1	1	1	0.08	0.99	1.13	484987.521	463161.975
> 2	1	1	1	0.09	0.96	1.09	498824.98	476696.066
> 2	1	1	1	0.1	0.97	1.12	484127.673	465951.238
> 2	1	1	1	0.1	0.97	1.11	487032		468964.662
> average				0.094	0.97	1.11	489182.9712	469579.9842
> 
> According to flt/cpu/s, performance improved by 0.2% which is not obvious.

I haven't checked how are those numbers calculated but from a very brief
look it seems like the variation between different runs is higher than
0.2%. Have you checked the average against standard deviation to get a
better idea whether the difference is really outside of the noise?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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