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Message-ID: <521f2702176148569a251c5db0a3ea48@AcuMS.aculab.com>
Date:   Mon, 23 Aug 2021 08:14:52 +0000
From:   David Laight <David.Laight@...LAB.COM>
To:     'Geert Uytterhoeven' <geert@...ux-m68k.org>
CC:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Jeff Layton <jlayton@...nel.org>,
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Subject: RE: Removing Mandatory Locks

From: Geert Uytterhoeven
> Sent: 23 August 2021 08:56
...
> Exactly.  E.g. Ubuntu doesn't show any kernel output during normal
> operation.

Current ubuntu (x86) is getting to be a PITA.
It even runs the graphical login on tty0 - which is where
the kernel messages would end up.
It is almost impossible to get an actual VGA console.

I need to find a different distro that has less bloat in it.

	David

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