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Message-ID: <YSOxnqiia+FqfOX6@orome.fritz.box>
Date:   Mon, 23 Aug 2021 16:33:02 +0200
From:   Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@...il.com>
To:     Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@...il.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 07/34] clk: tegra: Support runtime PM and power domain

On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 08:45:54PM +0300, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
> 20.08.2021 16:08, Ulf Hansson пишет:
> ...
> >> I suppose if there's really no good way of doing this other than
> >> providing a struct device, then so be it. I think the cleaned up sysfs
> >> shown in the summary above looks much better than what the original
> >> would've looked like.
> >>
> >> Perhaps an additional tweak to that would be to not create platform
> >> devices. Instead, just create struct device. Those really have
> >> everything you need (.of_node, and can be used with RPM and GENPD). As I
> >> mentioned earlier, platform device implies a CPU-memory-mapped bus,
> >> which this clearly isn't. It's kind of a separate "bus" if you want, so
> >> just using struct device directly seems more appropriate.
> > 
> > Just a heads up. If you don't use a platform device or have a driver
> > associated with it for probing, you need to manage the attachment to
> > genpd yourself. That means calling one of the dev_pm_domain_attach*()
> > APIs, but that's perfectly fine, ofcourse.
> > 
> >>
> >> We did something similar for XUSB pads, see drivers/phy/tegra/xusb.[ch]
> >> for an example of how that was done. I think you can do something
> >> similar here.
> 
> We need a platform device because we have a platform device driver that
> must be bound to the device, otherwise PMC driver state won't be synced
> since it it's synced after all drivers of devices that reference PMC
> node in DT are probed.

I think the causality is the wrong way around. It's more likely that you
added the platform driver because you have a platform device that you
want to bind against.

You can have drivers bind to other types of devices, although it's a bit
more work than abusing platform devices for it.

There's the "auxiliary" bus that seems like it would be a somewhat
better fit (see Documentation/driver-api/auxiliary_bus.rst), though it
doesn't look like this fits the purpose exactly. I think a custom bus
(or perhaps something that could be deployed more broadly across CCF)
would be more appropriate.

Looking around, it seems like clk/imx and clk/samsung abuse the platform
bus in a similar way, so they would benefit from a "clk" bus as well.

Thierry

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