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Message-ID: <CAF6AEGukn2=z-7CroxiKcHiCPfS_U3reOBe0ZYV1fj9UBap17w@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Mon, 6 Sep 2021 14:27:26 -0700
From:   Rob Clark <robdclark@...il.com>
To:     Amit Pundir <amit.pundir@...aro.org>
Cc:     John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org>,
        Caleb Connolly <caleb.connolly@...aro.org>,
        Rob Clark <robdclark@...omium.org>,
        freedreno <freedreno@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
        Sai Prakash Ranjan <saiprakash.ranjan@...eaurora.org>,
        Jonathan Marek <jonathan@...ek.ca>,
        David Airlie <airlied@...ux.ie>,
        linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@...r.kernel.org>,
        Sharat Masetty <smasetty@...eaurora.org>,
        Akhil P Oommen <akhilpo@...eaurora.org>,
        dri-devel <dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
        Jordan Crouse <jordan@...micpenguin.net>,
        Stephen Boyd <sboyd@...nel.org>,
        Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@...aro.org>,
        Sean Paul <sean@...rly.run>,
        open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/msm: Disable frequency clamping on a630

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 1:50 PM Rob Clark <robdclark@...il.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 12:58 PM Amit Pundir <amit.pundir@...aro.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 6 Sept 2021 at 21:54, Rob Clark <robdclark@...il.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 1:02 AM Amit Pundir <amit.pundir@...aro.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 4 Sept 2021 at 01:55, Rob Clark <robdclark@...il.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 12:39 PM John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 1:49 PM Rob Clark <robdclark@...il.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 1:28 PM Caleb Connolly
> > > > > > > <caleb.connolly@...aro.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 29/07/2021 21:24, Rob Clark wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 1:06 PM Caleb Connolly
> > > > > > > > > <caleb.connolly@...aro.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Hi Rob,
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> I've done some more testing! It looks like before that patch ("drm/msm: Devfreq tuning") the GPU would never get above
> > > > > > > > >> the second frequency in the OPP table (342MHz) (at least, not in glxgears). With the patch applied it would more
> > > > > > > > >> aggressively jump up to the max frequency which seems to be unstable at the default regulator voltages.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > *ohh*, yeah, ok, that would explain it
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> Hacking the pm8005 s1 regulator (which provides VDD_GFX) up to 0.988v (instead of the stock 0.516v) makes the GPU stable
> > > > > > > > >> at the higher frequencies.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Applying this patch reverts the behaviour, and the GPU never goes above 342MHz in glxgears, losing ~30% performance in
> > > > > > > > >> glxgear.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> I think (?) that enabling CPR support would be the proper solution to this - that would ensure that the regulators run
> > > > > > > > >> at the voltage the hardware needs to be stable.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Is hacking the voltage higher (although ideally not quite that high) an acceptable short term solution until we have
> > > > > > > > >> CPR? Or would it be safer to just not make use of the higher frequencies on a630 for now?
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > tbh, I'm not sure about the regulator stuff and CPR.. Bjorn is already
> > > > > > > > > on CC and I added sboyd, maybe one of them knows better.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In the short term, removing the higher problematic OPPs from dts might
> > > > > > > > > be a better option than this patch (which I'm dropping), since there
> > > > > > > > > is nothing stopping other workloads from hitting higher OPPs.
> > > > > > > > Oh yeah that sounds like a more sensible workaround than mine .
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm slightly curious why I didn't have problems at higher OPPs on my
> > > > > > > > > c630 laptop (sdm850)
> > > > > > > > Perhaps you won the sillicon lottery - iirc sdm850 is binned for higher clocks as is out of the factory.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Would it be best to drop the OPPs for all devices? Or just those affected? I guess it's possible another c630 might
> > > > > > > > crash where yours doesn't?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've not heard any reports of similar issues from the handful of other
> > > > > > > folks with c630's on #aarch64-laptops.. but I can't really say if that
> > > > > > > is luck or not.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maybe just remove it for affected devices?  But I'll defer to Bjorn.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just as another datapoint, I was just marveling at how suddenly smooth
> > > > > > the UI was performing on db845c and Caleb pointed me at the "drm/msm:
> > > > > > Devfreq tuning" patch as the likely cause of the improvement, and
> > > > > > mid-discussion my board crashed into USB crash mode:
> > > > > > [  146.157696][    C0] adreno 5000000.gpu: CP | AHB bus error
> > > > > > [  146.163303][    C0] adreno 5000000.gpu: CP | AHB bus error
> > > > > > [  146.168837][    C0] adreno 5000000.gpu: RBBM | ATB bus overflow
> > > > > > [  146.174960][    C0] adreno 5000000.gpu: CP | HW fault | status=0x00000000
> > > > > > [  146.181917][    C0] adreno 5000000.gpu: CP | AHB bus error
> > > > > > [  146.187547][    C0] adreno 5000000.gpu: CP illegal instruction error
> > > > > > [  146.194009][    C0] adreno 5000000.gpu: CP | AHB bus error
> > > > > > [  146.308909][    T9] Internal error: synchronous external abort:
> > > > > > 96000010 [#1] PREEMPT SMP
> > > > > > [  146.317150][    T9] Modules linked in:
> > > > > > [  146.320941][    T9] CPU: 3 PID: 9 Comm: kworker/u16:1 Tainted: G
> > > > > >     W         5.14.0-mainline-06795-g42b258c2275c #24
> > > > > > [  146.331974][    T9] Hardware name: Thundercomm Dragonboar
> > > > > > Format: Log Type - Time(microsec) - Message - Optional Info
> > > > > > Log Type: B - Since Boot(Power On Reset),  D - Delta,  S - Statistic
> > > > > > S - QC_IMAGE_VERSION_STRING=BOOT.XF.2.0-00371-SDM845LZB-1
> > > > > > S - IMAGE_VARIANT_STRING=SDM845LA
> > > > > > S - OEM_IMAGE_VERSION_STRING=TSBJ-FA-PC-02170
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So Caleb sent me to this thread. :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm still trying to trip it again, but it does seem like db845c is
> > > > > > also seeing some stability issues with Linus' HEAD.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Caleb's original pastebin seems to have expired (or at least require
> > > > > some sort of ubuntu login to access).. were the crashes he was seeing
> > > > > also 'AHB bus error'?
> > > >
> > > > I can reproduce this hard crash
> > > > https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Cu6UJntE/ and a gpu lockup
> > > > https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/6Ryd2Pug/ at times reliably, by
> > > > running antutu benchmark on pocof1.
> > > >
> > > > Reverting 9bc95570175a ("drm/msm: Devfreq tuning") helps and I no
> > > > longer see these errors.
> > > >
> > > > Complete dmesg for hardcrash https://pastebin.com/raw/GLZVQFQN
> > > >
> > >
> > > Does antutu trigger this issue as easily on db845c?  If no, does
> > > db845c have pmic differences compared to pocof1 and Caleb's phone?
> >
> > Yes I can reproduce this hard crash with antutu on db845c as well with
> > linux/master at 477f70cd2a67 ("Merge tag 'drm-next-2021-08-31-1' of
> > git://anongit.freedesktop.org/drm/drm").
> >
> > Dmesg: https://pastebin.com/raw/xXtvxk0G
> >
>
> ok, I guess it is at least not a board specific thing (ie. won't need
> to introduce some dt binding)..
>
> It would be nice to know what the maximum we can safely increase freq
> in one step, if we need to limit that.

Also, one sanity check.. for android builds, are you using the same
a630_gmu.bin from linux-firmware?  If not, does the l-f gmu fw change
things?

For freq changes, we basically ask gmu for the freq we want, and it
votes for the requested freq.. so a gmu fw bug could be possible here.

BR,
-R

>
> >
> > >
> > > I think we may need some help from qcom here, but I'll go back and
> > > look at older downstream kernels to see if I can find any evidence
> > > that we need to limit how far we change the freq in a single step.
> > > It's not clear to me if there is some physical constraint that the
> > > driver needs to respect, or if we have some missing/incorrect
> > > configuration for a630.  IIRC the downstream kernel is letting the GMU
> > > do more of the freq management, so it might be handling this case for
> > > the kernel.  But the GMU is a bit of a black box to me and I don't
> > > have any docs, so just a guess.
> > >
> > > It would be helpful if someone who can repro this could try the
> > > experiments I mentioned about increasing min_freq and/or decreasing
> > > max_freq to limit the size of the freq change until the issue does not
> > > happen.
> > >
> > > If we have to, we can merge this hack patch to disable freq clamping
> > > on a630.. but that isn't really a fix.  The root issue is a power
> > > issue, 9bc95570175a just made it more likely to see the problem.
> > >
> > > BR,
> > > -R
> > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Amit Pundir
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If you have a reliable reproducer, I guess it would be worth seeing if
> > > > > increasing the min_freq (ie. to limit how far we jump the freq in one
> > > > > shot) "fixes" it?
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess I could check downstream kgsl to see if they were doing
> > > > > something to increase freq in smaller increments.. I don't recall that
> > > > > they were but it has been a while since I dug thru that code.  And I
> > > > > suppose downstream it could also be done in their custom tz governor.
> > > > >
> > > > > BR,
> > > > > -R

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