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Date:   Wed, 8 Sep 2021 14:00:19 -0700
From:   Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@...cle.com>
To:     Hillf Danton <hdanton@...a.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>
Cc:     linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND 0/8] hugetlb: add demote/split page functionality

On 9/7/21 1:50 AM, Hillf Danton wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Sep 2021 16:40:28 +0200 Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> On 9/2/21 20:17, Mike Kravetz wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is some very high level information from a long stall that was
>>> interrupted.  This was an order 9 allocation from alloc_buddy_huge_page().
>>>
>>> 55269.530564] __alloc_pages_slowpath: jiffies 47329325 tries 609673 cpu_tries 1   node 0 FAIL
>>> [55269.539893]     r_tries 25       c_tries 609647   reclaim 47325161 compact 607     
>>>
>>> Yes, in __alloc_pages_slowpath for 47329325 jiffies before being interrupted.
>>> should_reclaim_retry returned true 25 times and should_compact_retry returned
>>> true 609647 times.
>>> Almost all time (47325161 jiffies) spent in __alloc_pages_direct_reclaim, and
>>> 607 jiffies spent in __alloc_pages_direct_compact.
>>>
>>> Looks like both
>>> reclaim retries > MAX_RECLAIM_RETRIES
>>> and
>>> compaction retries > MAX_COMPACT_RETRIES
>>>
>> Yeah AFAICS that's only possible with the scenario I suspected. I guess
>> we should put a limit on compact retries (maybe some multiple of
>> MAX_COMPACT_RETRIES) even if it thinks that reclaim could help, while
>> clearly it doesn't (i.e. because somebody else is stealing the page like
>> in your test case).
> 
> And/or clamp reclaim retries for costly orders
> 
> 	reclaim retries = MAX_RECLAIM_RETRIES - order;
> 
> to pull down the chance for stall as low as possible.

Thanks, and sorry for not replying quickly.  I only get back to this as
time allows.

We could clamp the number of compaction and reclaim retries in
__alloc_pages_slowpath as suggested.  However, I noticed that a single
reclaim call could take a bunch of time.  As a result, I instrumented
shrink_node to see what might be happening.  Here is some information
from a long stall.  Note that I only dump stats when jiffies > 100000.

[ 8136.874706] shrink_node: 507654 total jiffies,  3557110 tries
[ 8136.881130]              130596341 reclaimed, 32 nr_to_reclaim
[ 8136.887643]              compaction_suitable results:
[ 8136.893276]     idx COMPACT_SKIPPED, 3557109
[ 8672.399839] shrink_node: 522076 total jiffies,  3466228 tries
[ 8672.406268]              124427720 reclaimed, 32 nr_to_reclaim
[ 8672.412782]              compaction_suitable results:
[ 8672.418421]     idx COMPACT_SKIPPED, 3466227
[ 8908.099592] __alloc_pages_slowpath: jiffies 2939938  tries 17068 cpu_tries 1   node 0 success
[ 8908.109120]     r_tries 11       c_tries 17056    reclaim 2939865  compact 9

In this case, clamping the number of retries from should_compact_retry
and should_reclaim_retry could help.  Mostly because we will not be
calling back into the reclaim code?  Notice the long amount of time spent
in shrink_node.  The 'tries' in shrink_node come about from that:

	if (should_continue_reclaim(pgdat, sc->nr_reclaimed - nr_reclaimed,
				    sc))
		goto again;

compaction_suitable results is the values returned from calls to
should_continue_reclaim -> compaction_suitable.

Trying to think if there might be an intelligent way to quit early.
-- 
Mike Kravetz

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