linux-kernel - Re: [git pull] iov

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Message-ID: <YTrP0EbPaZ4c67Ij@zeniv-ca.linux.org.uk>
Date:   Fri, 10 Sep 2021 03:24:00 +0000
From:   Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>
To:     Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>
Cc:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@...il.com>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [git pull] iov_iter fixes

On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 03:15:35AM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 09:06:58PM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > On 9/9/21 8:48 PM, Al Viro wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 07:35:13PM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > > 
> > >> Yep ok I follow you now. And yes, if we get a partial one but one that
> > >> has more consumed than what was returned, that would not work well. I'm
> > >> guessing that a) we've never seen that, or b) we always end up with
> > >> either correctly advanced OR fully advanced, and the fully advanced case
> > >> would then just return 0 next time and we'd just get a short IO back to
> > >> userspace.
> > >>
> > >> The safer way here would likely be to import the iovec again. We're
> > >> still in the context of the original submission, and the sqe hasn't been
> > >> consumed in the ring yet, so that can be done safely.
> > > 
> > > ... until you end up with something assuming that you've got the same
> > > iovec from userland the second time around.
> > > 
> > > IOW, generally it's a bad idea to do that kind of re-imports.
> > 
> > That's really no different than having one thread do the issue, and
> > another modify the iovec while it happens. It's only an issue if you
> > don't validate it, just like you did the first time you imported. No
> > assumptions need to be made here.
> 
> 	It's not "need to be made", it's "will be mistakenly made by
> somebody several years down the road"...

E.g. somebody blindly assuming that the amount of data read the last
time around will not exceed the size of reimported iov_iter.  What I'm
saying is that there's a plenty of ways to fuck up in that direction,
and they will *not* be caught by normal fuzzers.

I'm not arguing in favour of an uncoditional copy, BTW - I would like to
see something resembling profiling data, but it's obviously not a pretty
solution.